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[samuel11]

You forgot to answer the question. Do you think the author of your cited article is not biased? And you think the statistics about Jewish representation at American corporations is not factual?

I don't "judge" people based on their religion, but competence and contribution to society.

More importantly, I believe in freedom and as far as I know, I am not preventing you from being successful.

If you see a cloud outside your window, it's probably because of us.

 

[volpunter]

Maybe you do not judge others based on their race (or religion according to you) but most Jews in managerial positions do as a matter of fact. How else is it that Goldman Sachs surrounds itself with massive numbers of Jews in its leadership ranks? Are Jews better at math? No they are not, according to many iq and aptitude tests, in fact Asians in the US are better at math than Jews. Are Jews better sales people? I do not see any evidence that points to that. Are Jews harder working? I also have not come across any such evidence. Is it not fair then to ask why even publicly traded companies such as Goldman Sachs employ such vast number of Jews for its managerial positions? Do you have a better explanation than nepotism? I am eager to hear it. You can apply the Goldman example to most every financial firm and larger media company in the US.

"I don't judge" unfortunately is not enough. Maybe for you but not for most who seek answers and look to provide more equal opportunities. At some point even Congress and the Senate have to answer to their own (majority of) people why they unconditionally support Israel. At some point people will raise the question why the majority of people are not experiencing the same opportunities than Jewish Americans in finance, technology, media, medical services, and politics. I am afraid it will not be the prettiest picture when it gets to this.

Your rather entertaining statement " I am not preventing you from being successful." is factually correct, I do not think we have met or will ever meet but in general your statement is incorrect as pointed out and argued above. Not hiring based on merit disadvantages those who work harder, are more intelligent, and have achieved more.

Not sure which cloud you are talking about, if you refer to smoke from incineration furnaces then your suggestion is quite misplaced, I have not lived before the 1970s and hence have no connection to the holocaust nor am I in any way condoning what happened nor do I wish any single Jew ill. I do not understand why your kind refuses to logically argue but instead prefers to strike others' backs with a dagger and otherwise "does not judge". Quite a poor way to converse with others.

I don't "judge" people based on their religion, but competence and contribution to society.

More importantly, I believe in freedom and as far as I know, I am not preventing you from being successful.

If you see a cloud outside your window, it's probably because of us.

 

[jem]

its all pretty simple... on almost every level of successful business one of the big keys is access to capital.

the businesses which make the outsized profits frequently require big bundles of risk capital.
those with access to risk capital frequently reap rewards... either directly as a percent of the money brought to the table... participation points... or internally by promotions.

those are the money guys and gals and they facilitate the talent in most industries.

lets take a look at films.
who has tens of millions to take a risk on most of the crappy movies hollywood puts out.
the only answer can be... those who have access to massive risk capital.

who has millions to buy politicians and U.S. and around the world. those who have access to the risk capital

who has millions and billions to finance takeovers and buyouts and even buildouts of infrastructure.

those with access. who gets to be the celebrity spokesmodels for their industries?

Then the the successful get to be the players in the media and politics.

The intial keys are either talent or access to risk free printing of money...

By the way... access to the money... also explains why we are seeing the top .x % gathering in all the assets while the standard of living for the rest of the country is being eroded via inflation.

 

[volpunter]

Then maybe you can answer the question who gets preferential access to capital. We criticize some of the Chinese ways of doing business via government connections (which in pretty much every rule book amounts to corruption) but we have no issues with Jewish financiers providing preferential financing to the "ingroup"? Do I have to say more?

its all pretty simple... on almost every level of successful business one of the big keys is access to capital.

the businesses which make the outsized profits frequently require big bundles of risk capital.
those with access to risk capital frequently reap rewards... either directly as a percent of the money brought to the table... participation points... or internally by promotions.

those are the money guys and gals and they facilitate the talent in most industries.

lets take a look at films.
who has tens of millions to take a risk on most of the crappy movies hollywood puts out.
the only answer can be... those who have access to massive risk capital.

who has millions to buy politicians and U.S. and around the world. those who have access to the risk capital

who has millions and billions to finance takeovers and buyouts and even buildouts of infrastructure.

those with access. who gets to be the celebrity spokesmodels for their industries?

Then the the successful get to be the players in the media and politics.

The intial keys are either talent or access to risk free printing of money...

By the way... access to the money... also explains why we are seeing the top .x % gathering in all the assets while the standard of living for the rest of the country is being eroded via inflation.

 

[Ricter]

Then maybe you can answer the question who gets preferential access to capital. We criticize some of the Chinese ways of doing business via government connections (which in pretty much every rule book amounts to corruption) but we have no issues with Jewish financiers providing preferential financing to the "ingroup"? Do I have to say more?

Not that I'm agreeing with you re the control of the nation's banks and capital, but I was reminded of this...

“History reports that the men who can manage men manage the men who can manage only things, and the men who can manage money manage all.”

― Will Durant, The Lessons of History

 

[jem]

interesting quotes... from your link ricter...



The Lessons of History Quotes (showing 1-16 of 16)

“In progressive societies the concentration[of wealth] may reach a point where the strength of number in the many poor rivals the strength of ability in the few rich; then the unstable equilibrium generates a critical situation, which history has diversely met by legislation redistributing wealth or by revolution distributing poverty.”
― Will Durant, The Lessons of History
tags: capitalism, socialism, wealth
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“History reports that the men who can manage men manage the men who can manage only things, and the men who can manage money manage all.”
― Will Durant, The Lessons of History
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“The fear of capitalism has compelled socialism to widen freedom, and the fear of socialism has compelled capitalism to increase equality. East is West and West is East, and soon the twain will meet.”
― Will Durant, The Lessons of History
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“you can’t fool all the people all the time,” but you can fool enough of them to rule a large country.”
― Will Durant, The Lessons of History

 

[Ricter]

interesting quotes... from your link ricter...



The Lessons of History Quotes (showing 1-16 of 16)

“In progressive societies the concentration[of wealth] may reach a point where the strength of number in the many poor rivals the strength of ability in the few rich; then the unstable equilibrium generates a critical situation, which history has diversely met by legislation redistributing wealth or by revolution distributing poverty.”
― Will Durant, The Lessons of History
tags: capitalism, socialism, wealth
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“History reports that the men who can manage men manage the men who can manage only things, and the men who can manage money manage all.”
― Will Durant, The Lessons of History
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“The fear of capitalism has compelled socialism to widen freedom, and the fear of socialism has compelled capitalism to increase equality. East is West and West is East, and soon the twain will meet.”
― Will Durant, The Lessons of History
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“you can’t fool all the people all the time,” but you can fool enough of them to rule a large country.”
― Will Durant, The Lessons of History

I highly recommend that book to anyone beginning an interest in history. I've read it more than once myself. It's a quick way to discover if you're interested in more, or not.

 

[gwb-trading]

I highly recommend that book to anyone beginning an interest in history. I've read it more than once myself. It's a quick way to discover if you're interested in more, or not.

Yes, Will Durant is an excellent author.

 

[Ricter]

Yes, Will Durant is an excellent author.

They were that. But over the years I have come to somewhat agree with the critics that accuse them of a deterministic history.

 

[gwb-trading]

Did you seriously suggest sending tens of millions of people in every direction on the map? Are all Germans guilty even if they didn't support Hitler?
Germany is a power that's actually a key ally of US and without them, I doubt anyone could've stopped the whole of Europe becoming Soviet.

If yes, I guess I should spit in the face of every American as the drone strikes in Pakistan kill thousands of innocent civilians every year.
Considering what the US is doing now around the world, it's beyond me that any American would dare to blame a German NOW for something that happened before they were born.

Once again... it is time for a history lesson - this was one of the two proposed plans put forward by America for the re-structuring of Germany after the war. The Morgenthau Plan put forward by U.S. Secretary of the Treasury Henry Morgenthau was punitive and called for the "pastoralization" of Germany. An alternate plan put forward by U.S. Secretary of War Henry Stimson called for the re-building of Germany after the war, it was eventually adopted and driven as the Marshall Plan.

The Morgenthau Plan called for the elimination of all German industry. No planes, no rail, no factories, no autos, no engines, and no military equipment -- the remaining Germans could farm as if they lived in the 1700s. The plan called for a long term military occupation government (which would have left the East/West situation with the Russians exactly as it was). The Morgenthau Plan also called for guilty Germans to be shipped to other countries to work off their debt by re-building the other nations for their crimes - the definition of "guilty" being anyone who supported the German government in any manner.

Whenever I hear German citizens like volpunter constantly pushing hatred of the United States and Jews, I believe they need a harsh reminder that it is fortunate we adopted the Marshall Plan to re-build Germany - and the only reason they enjoy the freedoms & economic success that they do today is because of the benevolence of the U.S. government & taxpayers who supported the Marshall Plan and the Banks (some with Jewish executives) who supported the necessary monetary arrangements.