Surprise...Canadians becoming more conservative

[Kassz007]

Quote from Max E. Pad:

Canadians dont pay for U.S. healthcare. If a person had money to spend and had cancer which country do you think they would rather be in?

You see that's the catch. The USA healthcare system only works for people with loads of cash. The average joe wants to be taken care of at a fraction of the cost. Hence the Canadian system.

 

[Kassz007]

Quote from jem:

we should make a chart of canadiens living near the border with disposable income.

that would be a far more telling chart.

How would that be more telling? Most of the population of Canada lives within a reasonable distance of the border anyways. And of course people with tons of cash would head to the USA for a major procedure. You can get the job done quicker, there's no denying that. But it's a cost/benefit relationship, same as anything. The reality is, people want to be taken care of when they're sick, and not have to lose their home because of it. Most people do not have loads of disposable income.

 

[murray t turtle]

Quote from Kassz007:

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/06/08/surprisecanadians-becoming-more-conservative

If the recent Conservative Party majority win weren't proof enough, an annual poll for a think tank headed up by former Reformer Preston Manning has found, yet again, conservatism is becoming mainstream in Canada.

"A unique strain of conservatism -- combining free market principles, moderation, incrementalism and social justice -- has become mainstream,"

Not only did the poll find, according to the Manning Centre, Canadians are becoming more conservative, they also want their government to move away from pursuing grand visions and designs for society.

Instead, the poll found Canadians would like to increasingly take care of themselves.

Indeed, 67% believe government should get smaller.

"Canadians, across party lines, simply don't believe that governments can, or should, play a major role in their day-to-day lives; the one exception being safety and security," Manning said.

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Growing conservative trends USA, Canada, thank Jesus;
not that gov should play a major role in safety & security. Wow ,those that depend on the gov for a major role in safety/security are in for a rude awaking

President Ronald Reagan said federal gov is not the solution;
its the problem . God bless the US post office for thier recent ''Ronald Reagan forever stamp''

 

[Kassz007]

Quote from murray t turtle:

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Growing conservative trends USA, Canada, thank Jesus;
not that gov should play a major role in safety & security. Wow ,those that depend on the gov for a major role in safety/security are in for a rude awaking

I think the safety/security aspect refers to military and police.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Max E. Pad:

Good news for Canada.

Bad news for Gabfly

 

[Max E.]

Quote from Lucrum:

Bad news for Gabfly

Which means more good news for Canada.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Kassz007:



As long as taxes decrease and government shrinks, I'm a happy camper.

I'd rather see our taxes go up, just far enough to pay for a nuclear weapons program.

 

[jem]

Quote from Kassz007:

Indeed, it is also my impression that Canadians generally prefer their healthcare system over most others. A country doesn't need to subscribe to EVERY "conservative" viewpoint to prefer conservatism in general.

The majority of Canadians are also pro-choice, pro-gay marriage. I think we have an incredible balance right now with the country being center on social policies, and to the right economically.

As long as taxes decrease and government shrinks, I'm a happy camper.

if our taxes were were to decrease and govt were to shrink... you could get me to be fine with no govt sanction of marriage. Let it be a private matter.

of course health care contains cost benefit trade offs. I just think the ones we are making now suck and we should not think govt health care means better health care. I am concerned... giving govt more control over our lives is not going to work out in the long run.

There are plenty of easier more useful reforms like increasing competition and creating larger more powerful buyers groups.

We also need to ration taxpayer supplied health care.

We cant keep spending billions keeping premies alive who were spontaneously aborted just because we can. We have to look at outcomes... we have to acknowledge the fact that if people want extraordinary medical care they should pay cash or have private insurance.

We cant hand out 10000 to 20000 dollar new hips to 80 something year olds who are too weak to move around much anyway. Again if grannie wants a new hip let her pay for it or have insurance.

 

[Max E.]

If our taxes were to decrease and govt was to shrink you could probably get me to dance a goddamn jig in the middle of times square.

Quote from jem:

if our taxes were were to decrease and govt were to shrink... you could get me to be fine with no govt sanction of marriage.

 

[jem]

Quote from Max E. Pad:

If our taxes were to decrease and govt was to shrink you could probably get me to dance a goddamn jig in the middle of times square.

me too.