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Yo MarketSurfer



you wrote about `price drivers` several times ..

i never heard of that term ..

are these price drivers ?

StopLoss Order (cascade)
Option barriers
Option expiry dates
the pump in `pump and dump`
Emotions
News

:confused:
 
Quote from traderchi128:

Markets shut today. Plenty of time to post and comment about you guys whining.

Keep bitching, is entertaining.

Oil's trading, slowly, but my price action setups worked fine, between 8:40 and 10:30 ET, six setups triggered, five reached minimum target.

Technical price action day trading works through all market conditions. It's not an edge that will disappear as long as there's a liquid market to trade and the market participants aren't all trading in the same time frame. These qualifications have held strong for as long as I've been alive, so I will continue to assume they'll hold until the markets shut down for good.

This thread is entertaining, no doubt :cool:
 
Quote from NoDoji:

Oil's trading, slowly, but my price action setups worked fine, between 8:40 and 10:30 ET, six setups triggered, five reached minimum target.

Technical price action day trading works through all market conditions. It's not an edge that will disappear as long as there's a liquid market to trade and the market participants aren't all trading in the same time frame. These qualifications have held strong for as long as I've been alive, so I will continue to assume they'll hold until the markets shut down for good.

This thread is entertaining, no doubt :cool:


wow six setups in two hours .. you trade tickcharts ?
scalp for 3-4 ticks ?
 
Quote from MadeMan:

Yo MarketSurfer



you wrote about `price drivers` several times ..

i never heard of that term ..

are these price drivers ?

StopLoss Order (cascade)
Option barriers
Option expiry dates
the pump in `pump and dump`
Emotions
News

:confused:

Surf's price drivers:

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Quote from MadeMan:

wow six setups in two hours .. you trade tickcharts ?
scalp for 3-4 ticks ?

5-min core setups and 1-min continuation setups in a defined trend. Scalp for minimum .20 except in stop-and-reverse situations.

I almost always have six trades in first couple hours.

I know a scalper who targets 7-8 ticks and has far more trades than I do.
 
You just admitted the other day that even if a trader, who uses TA, has success in that combine, that you would attribute that success to proper money management, and that their success was in spite of TA. (Think AustinP)

You already have your mind made up. Why would anyone waste their time and effort "proving their words" if you are just going to stick to your preconceived notions anyways? :confused:



Quote from marketsurfer:

I love how those who claim to have the skill, gift or ability with trading ALWAYS FAIL to participate in events like the Combine to prove their words--
surf
 
Quote from NoDoji:

Oil's trading, slowly, but my price action setups worked fine, between 8:40 and 10:30 ET, six setups triggered, five reached minimum target.

Technical price action day trading works through all market conditions. It's not an edge that will disappear as long as there's a liquid market to trade and the market participants aren't all trading in the same time frame. These qualifications have held strong for as long as I've been alive, so I will continue to assume they'll hold until the markets shut down for good.

This thread is entertaining, no doubt :cool:

I trade energies and AGS as well. With the huge decrease in volume and volatiity today I'm on the sidelines. Days like this are not ideal to trade. But nice job if you did well today.

And yes..price action trading works in ANY market. That's the beauty of it. Along with realistic profit goals and defined stops/good risk management it will work forever. I know guys who started with me in 1992 who trade a price action based strategy. Still doing great 20 years later. They do adjust parameters based on volatility, but their risk mgmt has stayed the same. I was lucky enough to learn from these guys back in the day.
 
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Your not a trained and educated psychologist? Surely you have income from that business---

No, it has nothing to do with my personal experience-- many folks play baseball and make big bucks from it-- I suck at playing baseball, but their is evidence that these big buck players exist.

There is NO evidence that retail traders who started from zero without any outside support can live a good lifestyle from trading proceeds alone-- IN FACT, the EVIDENCE IS clearly that they do no exist. surf

I am. But I didn't counsel for money for a long time. Trading is much more interesting to me as a business and much more profitable. Also in Russia people more likely visit some quack than a psychologist when they have problems. :D

As for the evidence... If you don't know something, does it really mean anything? And what is a "good lifestyle"?

P. S. I wasn't "poor" before trading, I had decent (especially for Russia) income from other business, but I closed it as I got interested in trading, which frankly was a mistake back then, cause it took me a few years to become consistent, but I was young and over-confident. :)
 
Quote from traderchi128:

It's beyond hilarious. I remember back in the day at my firm all the guys who got clobbered trading would congregate outside the office whining and bitching about how hard the market was, nobody could make money....sob sob sob.

Reminds me of Surf and CoolTrader.

No, man, you are not understanding what I am saying. Clearly, folks with plenty of OPM, institutional level access, edge and leverage can make a fortune trading. I am talking about at home retail guys who start with next to nothing then claim to have built that amount up to the massive amount needed to actually trade for a living while maintaining above unibomber, midwestern living standards from nothing but their day trading over a number of years. I don't believe these folks exist despite the claims-- if they do, there is another income source or personal wealth that actually pays the bills. surf
 
Quote from cornixforex:

I am. But I didn't counsel for money for a long time. Trading is much more interesting to me as a business and much more profitable. Also in Russia people more likely visit some quack than a psychologist when they have problems. :D

As for the evidence... If you don't know something, does it really mean anything? And what is a "good lifestyle"?

P. S. I wasn't "poor" before trading, I had decent (especially for Russia) income from other business, but I closed it as I got interested in trading, which frankly was a mistake back then, cause it took me a few years to become consistent, but I was young and over-confident. :)

Family money? I know several extremely wealthy russians-- richest and wildest spenders I have ever seen--- I know when you folks say "business" you are not talking about the local pizza shop... surf
 
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