Surf's Special Situation Journal

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Quote from cornixforex:

Maybe I'm wrong, but I hardly can imagine a software code which would be able to consider these relations between all elements and commit correct decisions. If it was possible, guess someone would sure create it already, likely someone from top institutions who have access to virtually unlimited financial, scientific and computer resources.

Other than that, our trading is certainly like 90% automated (10% is the "read" which is a bit subjective at times) but the algo is ourselves, not the machine. :)

I think as far as oil goes, the big boys have programmed certain things because they just work and work and work and work and seem to account for all sorts of contextual scenarios. After all this time, I've identified a slew of it and as you correctly stated, we are the algos!
 
Quote from NoDoji:

I think as far as oil goes, the big boys have programmed certain things because they just work and work and work and work and seem to account for all sorts of contextual scenarios. After all this time, I've identified a slew of it and as you correctly stated, we are the algos!

I watched oil yesterday... looked like a day-traders paradise market, is it always that good, ha? :D
 
Quote from cornixforex:

I watched oil yesterday... looked like a day-traders paradise market, is it always that good, ha? :D

yes... and sometimes it is better

crude oil versus ES or stocks day-trading and all else: once you go black, you'll never go back :cool:
 
Quote from austinp:

yes... and sometimes it is better

crude oil versus ES or stocks day-trading and all else: once you go black, you'll never go back :cool:

ES is ridiculous lately, I agree. Myself I trade Euro for a few years already, usually it's fine but of course nowhere near the CL speaking of intraday volatility. What especially amazes me is that once direction is chosen CL moves often 100+ ticks literally one way without any pullbacks. Very unusual to see this.
 
Quote from cornixforex:

I watched oil yesterday... looked like a day-traders paradise market, is it always that good, ha? :D

It's always good, but not always that good :p

You do have to learn to identify potential chop/range and adjust your trading style accordingly, but I think that's a lot easier to do in oil than in the stock index futures.

CL trades pretty much like 6E, but with more directional swings per day.
 
Quote from cornixforex:

What especially amazes me is that once direction is chosen CL moves often 100+ ticks literally one way without any pullbacks. Very unusual to see this.

That's because oil reduces friction :D
 
Quote from NoDoji:

It's always good, but not always that good :p

You do have to learn to identify potential chop/range and adjust your trading style accordingly, but I think that's a lot easier to do in oil than in the stock index futures.

CL trades pretty much like 6E, but with more directional swings per day.

Yea, I also heard Euro traders often watch oil as an intermarket indicator. Technically have the same impression so far: pretty much similar to 6E but much higher amplitude of swings.
 
Quote from NoDoji:

That's because oil reduces friction :D

:D

Really, a couple of such moves a month (and I guess they are much more frequent in CL) and no need to trade the rest of time, ha... Will watch it (first hours of trading at least due to my timezone) and maybe do some paper trading to get a better feel.
 
Perhaps ms doji could share with the surf report readers an example or two of the algo like repeatable patterns in the oil contract? I am feeling expansive and in a reconciliatory mood between the true believers and the price driver anti TA contingent. I am extending an olive branch of dialog so that we all may enter a spirit of cooperation. Clearly my trading has been abysmal recently--- Thank you. Surf
 
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