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There is tremendous evidence both academic and practical that TA is mostly BS. Whether you choose to believe this or not is up to you. Only you know the truth about your success using it.

surf
"Mostly"? Going soft on us, surf? :D

I've always said this, my issue with you has been your anti-TA absolutism ... until now. Or is this just another surf fake-out where you pretend to be reasonable before another round of anti-TA vitriol?
 
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I am not implying anything not knowing who or what that alias is. Not to mention I never heard of him until now. What kind of league is he in? Explain please. surf

You are not in the same league as NW. Big league/little league.

find out what league you are in; he is not in that league. He is a pro.
 
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Ok, thank you. But please be more specific about what outlandish things do i say? I guess you are a TA true believer and don't like your faith questioned? Seriously, that is the only thing that I can imagine that you are talking about as being outlandish. Am I right? Regarding theatrics-- sure I get overly excited about some positions-- so what? Not to ask, how does this hurt the site? A few weak hands get offended?

Well, If you can't take TA being questioned-- you are weak and the markets are not for you. There is tremendous evidence both academic and practical that TA is mostly BS. Whether you choose to believe this or not is up to you. Only you know the truth about your success using it.

surf

See. I didn't even mention Technical Analysis. What was the point of that tirade?
 
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See. I didn't even mention Technical Analysis. What was the point of that tirade?


My anti TA stance is the only thing I can even imagine being considered outlandish by some folks hence my mention of it.
 
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See. I didn't even mention Technical Analysis. What was the point of that tirade?

He is explaining what you agree with.

Providers of TA can be hurting people.

You never hurt people the way you conclude I hurt people.

My kind of TA is garbage.

MS doesn't personalize his view of TA in general. It iss all hateful.

Both you and MS do get personal about people who espouse TA.

You define mine as garbage. MS defines mine as the most evil he can find.

Therefore, for most all ET members my stuff is garbage and evil and this message should be promulgated continually and broadly.

I'm the bad guy in ET.
 
Once a person has a working system with enough data to verify its validity, they don't care what academics and researchers who have only tested a very limited range of inputs have to say on the matter. The people you butt heads with constantly seem to be in this group of people (working system) so you should understand why there is constant conflict.

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Well, If you can't take TA being questioned-- you are weak and the markets are not for you. There is tremendous evidence both academic and practical that TA is mostly BS. Whether you choose to believe this or not is up to you. Only you know the truth about your success using it.

surf
 
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My anti TA stance is the only thing I can even imagine being considered outlandish by some folks hence my mention of it.

I don't care about your opinion of ta. I care that you pollute every thread preventing others from talking about it.

Btw - I don't trade technicals or forex or overpriced paperweight cellphones.
 
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I don't care about your opinion of ta. I care that you pollute every thread preventing others from talking about it.

Btw - I don't trade technicals or forex or overpriced paperweight cellphones.

That's simply untrue. Please provide examples of my polluting threads. You are certainly entitled to your opinion --- the solution is to place marketsurfer on ignore if you consider his contributions pollution. Voila' problem solved. However you seem to believe you are speaking for the site itself--- why?
 
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My anti TA stance is the only thing I can even imagine being considered outlandish by some folks hence my mention of it.
You may want to reconsider that.
 
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Once a person has a working system with enough data to verify its validity, they don't care what academics and researchers who have only tested a very limited range of inputs have to say on the matter. The people you butt heads with constantly seem to be in this group of people (working system) so you should understand why there is constant conflict.


That's all well and good, RR. However, I have never seen any evidence of any consistent success using a fixed objective TA system. Therefore my skepticism. These folks that are claimed to have success often don't even show any outward signs of success and if they do, it is usually from another business, inheritance or just being a miser for part of their lives. We have access to market data bases that you CAN NOT access ( so your limited data claim is mute)--- this data has been tested extensivily for the types of repetetive patterns that you (plural) claim to exploit. Very little is found of value-- yet you folks keep claiming that you discovered the secret or whatever. Based on my knowledge, experience, and logic--there is a serious disconnent between reality and the claims made.

Be that as it may. The major tell that something isnt' right in ET TA land is the fact that these supposed success stories are very disturbed by my questioning. They seek to banish me from this site. My experience tells me that every succesful person who is doubted by someone really could care less about the doubt. They just keep doign what they are doing. However, In ET TA guru situations, the gurus can't take any heat from outsiders----this doesn't make sense and it a very strong tell that the success is exagerated or totally fabricated. surf
 
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