SureTrader - Providing sensitive information

Every US broker has PDT, even with international branches, even for foreign customers - PDT applies for every broker which has main (tax) residence in US. Simple. To the rest of the world, PDT is unknown.
"New to trading" + "Want to make SureTrader account" = "excellent" start. Will not hear about you soon.
 
Remember, SureTrader is offshore (Bahamas) and if you're a U.S. citizen they will ask for the standard information for identification purposes and compliance with AML rules.

Look up the prior thread regarding SureTrader as it related to FBAR (Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts). They received notifications from the IRS commanding to know the identities of any U.S. citizen.

If you're going to put up $10k or more or if your highest balance within the year exceeds $10k, then you might want to look into the rules regarding FBAR, because SureTrader WILL share your information to the IRS, even though its jurisdiction is the Bahamas.

The fines for not filing the forms relating to FBAR are very hefty. Just something to keep in mind if you plan to have $10k or more. I helped my aunt research this recently as she had an asset sale overseas and the foreign bank sent her a notice regarding FBAR. Even AFTER she paid the tax overseas and wired the money to the U.S., the corporate office at Citibank called her demanding to know why she had wired in a large amount and for what purpose (it was well into the six figures).

All this crap is completely ridiculous and shows the far reaching powers of the money grabbers (i.e. the banks and the IRS) harassing the common folk. They're trying to find out where everyone has money stashed, so they can find ways to take it when the time comes.

Meanwhile the Fortune 500 companies stash BILLIONS in lower tax jurisdictions because they know how to work the loopholes in the tax code.

Just my 2 cents.
TradeZero is also Bahamas based, offers US market trading but does not deal with US traders. May be worth a look if that is a concern... Especially to people in Canada, that has an incestuous relationship with the IRS.
 
I trade with TD direct investing and their is no PDT rule. I don't day trade so would never run into the issue but I have called them before and asked just in case I wanted to liquify multiple positions I put on immediately due to some major news or something like that.

Another rule they have in the states that TD atleast doesn't follow is front running or something like that. In the states it's not allowed to buy securities with unsettled cash in a cash account. With TD direct investing with my registered accounts which need to be cash(no margin allowed) as soon as I sell the funds are available for trading. I'd only need to wait for settlement day if I want to withdraw the funds.

For awhile I knew IB Canada had to adhere to the PDT rule with Canadians as I think RMorse mentioned it was the way they clear the trades.

As far as I know U.S citizens that open a trading account in Canada would be subject to PDT and I don't know why you'd choose them if you wanted to day trade. At 9.99 commission and lacklustre software. Well for registered accounts your stuck with Advanced Dashboard which is a sad software for trading and for U.S dollar margin account you have access to TD U.S trading platform which is thinkorswim.
 
Hey guys, I'm just getting started with day trading. Since I don't have 25k (or 15k) to create a SpeedTrader account, I'm just going to create a SureTrader account.

I am astonished at all the very sensitive information that needs to be provided when creating an account. It makes me very uncomfortable to say the least. Is this something all traders have to go through? Is it common for all trading websites? Is it secure?

Thanks for the help!

-Max
When filling out sensitive information on the web it's always a good idea to use a vpn to encrypt the data, I use www.goldenfrog.com/vyprvpn.
 
If they provide access to US listed stocks then yes they would also have to adhere to PDT rules and enforce them towards their clients at least what concerns the trading in US equities . If they don't then they set themselves up for regulatory trouble. Simple as that
This is not accurate. I trade at TradeZero and there is no PDT and I trade US stock markets.
 
There is another broker in the Bahamas that doesn't enforce PDT. But more likely than not, you are trading their account, and I believe that in some cases they take the other side of the trade (like a cfd). It works for me as I only use limiy orders, trade small, and am not really interested in trading prop.
 
Then there is something fishy. Even non resident trading US equity markets by US regulation are subject to PDT
Nothing fishy. Been there for over a year and all is good. They clear with a US clearing firm and no PDT. they do not accept US citizens however, but we trade DMA with US markets so there is no opportunity for them to take the other side. All my limits are represented by EDGX or NSDQ.
 
What firm is that if you don't mind sharing


Nothing fishy. Been there for over a year and all is good. They clear with a US clearing firm and no PDT. they do not accept US citizens however, but we trade DMA with US markets so there is no opportunity for them to take the other side. All my limits are represented by EDGX or NSDQ.
 
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