Absolute and total horseshit. You absolutely do need an ID to purchase a gun at gun shows and with private sales.
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Absolute and total horseshit. You absolutely do need an ID to purchase a gun at gun shows and with private sales.
Really? And what country are you speaking of because here in America that is not true in many instances.
Please see the following Houston chronicle article that does a very nice job of explaining how ID and background requirements are skirted in many states...
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/local/explainer/article/gun-laws-regulations-firearms-8381025.php
state laws on private sales:
https://consumer.findlaw.com/consumer-transactions/private-gun-sale-laws-by-state.html
https://consumer.findlaw.com/consumer-transactions/private-gun-sale-laws-by-state.html
You just listed a whole lot of privileges, not rights, so those are all moot points
Please highlight where in that article it says anything at all about how buying a gun with no ID is legal.
Please highlight anywhere on this webpage where it says you can legally buy a gun without ID.
Why does it matter if they are not official rights? Don't they disenfranchise people without ID? Not being able to get medical care, food stamps, etc...isn't the whole liberal argument you've been making about how people are disenfranchised by having to get an ID?
In states like Texas they use the federal law and federal law only requires valid ID for background checks by licensed gun dealers. I should have added that before but still I would think a second amendment scholar would know that.
Beyond Texas, in Virginia they only make recommendations for private sales and no mention of ID requirements:
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms.shtm
(State police website)
What are the laws concerning the private sale of a handgun?
To privately sell a firearm, it is recommended that you safeguard information pertaining to the transaction such as the date the firearm was sold, the complete name and address of the buyer, and the make, model, and serial number of the firearm. The seller and buyer of a handgun must be a resident of the state in which the transfer occurs. Should the firearm ever be located at a crime scene, trace of the firearm will determine the licensed dealer who last sold the firearm and will identify the last buyer of the firearm. To have your name removed from this process, you may consider placing your firearm on consignment with a licensed dealer. This will also ensure that the firearm is transferred only to a lawfully eligible individual.
You are asserting ID’s are required for all gun purchases, I am saying that is not so. There is no such uniform law throughout the country with regard to private sales.
The fact of the matter is you can certainly sell your gun to your neighbors or anyone else for that matter in many, many states without valid id, background check, or record of sale legally.
First of all, in Texas, a person commits a misdemeanor if they sell a weapon privately to any individual under age, convicted of a felony, accused of domestic abuse and/or whom has a restraining order attached. Short of selling a gun to someone you know very well, I'm not sure how you do that without running a background check on someone, which requires ID. Do people still do it without checking? I'm sure they do, but that doesn't make it legal. If I sell a weapon to another individual and do not check their ID, I am taking the risk upon myself in doing so. But sure, it technically can happen - so in that circumstance I must concede that it is possible.
The same is true in Virginia. The same is true in every other state. Again, do people sell guns without checking the buyer's information? Sure they do. This is illegal.
People also sell pharmaceuticals illegally. Drugs illegally. They even vote illegally.