Superstition, Luck and Vodoo

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Originally posted by darkhorse




Commisso I'm surprised that you wound up being more angry with me than even faster it seems.

Do you deny that a denial of aristotelian logic is a central tenet of eastern thought? I have extensive writings on buddhism and eastern thought on my bookshelf three feet from my desk. Care to delve with me? I am wee bit too informed to be written off as ridiculous, and if you do not see a denial of absolutes at the heart of eastern thought then I suggest you look again. There is a difference between an intentional dig and an observation that one does not like.

If you are going to hate me, you might as well take the consistency to its next level and hate all christians, or consider all christians automatically irrational. Did you ever consider the fact that acting consistently with my beliefs is an act of friendship, not one of agression? Do you fault me for my conclusions or for voicing them? Or do you harbor a resentment for the God I serve?

I never expected anyone to agree with me at the drop of a hat, but I am surprised at the furious outpouring of emotion.

"You are stupid. You are delusional. You believe in hocus pocus. You are a moron. I can tell you you're full of crap right now."

I think basically one person has disagreed with me in an intelligent and rational way without throwing rocks. Pretty much everyone else thought my arguments were cool/ entertaining while they were nondirect and nonthreatening, but as soon as I gave God a name the long knives came out.

Who is being emotional? I did not develop the depth of my faith overnight, did not pop up out of bed and say 'you know, I think I'll believe in God today.' No, I built my conceptual framework from the ground up, starting with no assumptions. I have pursued this question to the ends of the earth (or Australia at least). I have studied western thought, eastern thought, physics, mathematics, economics, sociology, biology, philosophy. I have spoken in depth with intelligent christians, pagans, atheists, buddhists, hindus, nihilists, wiccans, dialectical materialists, anarchists, physicists, sociologists- you name it, I've taken a hard look at it.

Your emotional reaction to my statements shows that I have perhaps rattled a few cages. Yes, I am the safe assumptionists nightmare, a rational and intelligent person who has taken God out of the box and discovered that not only is he reasonable to believe in and follow, he is the lynchpin of why reality makes sense. I don't blame you for having cognitive dissonance. It would be so much easier if I weren't here. But I am here. And He is.

So go on denying, go on insulting, go on pretending that I am somehow a nut job instead of a rational and intelligent individual acting consistently with logical beliefs. Sign me up for the asylum.

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt, baby.

Go back and read my posts DARK... NEVER not once did I dispute one thing you have said regarding your conception of God or anything pertaining to Christianity in general... It was the extreme arrogance that compeled me to ask you questions...

Like I said before I was simply amused by your posts... I for some perverted reason like to hear delusional people(not delusion stemming from the beliefs themselves or christianity BUT from your ABSOLUTE certainty your way is THE way)...

What started to get to me was the statement you made regarding others having to get their "ducks in a row" or else pay up in the end... Amidst your extreme arrogance with that statement do you even take the time to realize what you are saying to me... THAT I WILL SUFFER ETERNAL DAMNATION AND ULTIMATELY BURN IN HELL FOR ETERNITY... that is downright offensive... and to tell you the truth if the pope himself came to me and told me the same, I would too tell him to eat a dick!

The funny thing about this is that you never once asked me if I believe in "your" God and in the end it may turn out that we believed in the same thing...

PEACE
 
same again

you, accuse others of insulting remarks whilst never keeping to the point. To do that would eventually show faults and flaws in your "truths", so you dodge them , ducking and weaving in your contradictions.

Does this approach work when your trading ,maybe it gives you an edge?
 
Originally posted by stu
problem is dark we speak a different language using the same words
definition of diatribe: as A Thunderouse verbal attack.

you pervert meaning of truth to suit your concept.



Who has argued their points, and who has made one liner insults? I 'pervert the truth' because I calmly disagree with you? Because I don't think that the men in white coats have a monopoly on truth?

I've already stated, and am repeating for the third time or so now, that we are in different camps when it comes to our interpretation of truth and where the buck stops. I say again, old ground. Your case has been made. Others have made it much better than you have. I know where you stand, I know where I stand. All you are doing is trying to get the last word- or the last insult I should say.

'You pervert the truth to suit your concept.' A wonderfully meaningless propaganda statement. 'You tell artfully woven lies.' 'You shade your deception with hypocritical nuances.' 'You pompously declare your buffoonery to the world.'

Those are not arguments, Stu. They are not points of logic to be considered. They are false assertions, empty rhetoric. Since you are relying on empty rhetoric so much, I am beginning to think that's all you've got.
 
Originally posted by darkhorse




Who has argued their points, and who has made one liner insults?

1. Plenty of posts arged their point
2 You make the insults
 
Originally posted by darkhorse






'You tell artfully woven lies.' 'You shade your deception with hypocritical nuances.' 'You pompously declare your buffoonery to the world.'

Those are not arguments, Stu. They are not points of logic to be considered.


I never said those thing dark
 
Originally posted by stu
Originally posted by darkhorse


'You tell artfully woven lies.' 'You shade your deception with hypocritical nuances.' 'You pompously declare your buffoonery to the world.'

Those are not arguments, Stu. They are not points of logic to be considered.

I never said those thing dark



Now you are pretending to miss the point of a clear analogy, and you are spamming.

You accuse me of being the insulter, and then you ratchet up the insults. Keep digging, Stu. You are only making yourself look foolish. I can deal with rational objections, and I can deal with childish actions too.

p.s. if you aren't faster then perhaps you are his twin brother, the resemblances are uncanny. Anyone second this? Maybe you are switching identities in a phone booth....
 
Now you really are going over old ground.

No I am not your Faster spectre

Keep the insults going you' re lost in your debate without them
 
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