Superstition, Luck and Vodoo
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Originally posted by darkhorse
Originally posted by Commisso
... I do not need to KNOW anything to lead a happy and fulfilling life...
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But in declaring ignorance sufficient, are you not also declaring ignorance to be enough? In declaring there is no need to search for the answer, are you not declaring that you have already searched and found a specific answer? If embracing the here and now is your raison d'etre w/no regard for what lies beyond, then let it be so. But I humbly suggest others may wish to conduct their own search and come to a different and deeper conclusion....so let us agree to disagree.
Gentlemen, I wish you well. Enjoy the blessings of life. Listen to your minds and listen to your hearts also. We only live once, that is true (how long we live is another question entirely of course)...
p.s. thx for the kudos marketsurfer, i appreciate appreciation....
Dark,
With all due respect, I never said that ignorance is sufficient... What I said was that I do not need to conceptualize and know anything on an intellectual level regarding the ultimate reality in order to have faith and spirituality and ulimately lead a happy and fulfilling life...
The mind is the wrong tool my friend (at least IMHO)... The ultimate reality will not be found with the mind...
All these words spoken on faith and the ultimate reality are just chit chat... comparable to putting "legs on a snake"... It was only until I was able to still my mind that I was given a glimpse...
thanks I will check it out...Yes, apart from the contingent that does not care, there are three proposed solutions to the conundrum of reality. Here are the nutshell summations:
1) Logical positivism: Science is the only valid method. Anything beyond the here and now is hocus pocus. Put up or shut up (with scientific proof). Don't bother me with anything else, I don't want to hear it.
2) Mysticism: Logic is illusion. All is contradiction. "The no-mind not-thinks no-thoughts about no-things," as Buddha says. Do not try to define the real, embrace nothingness. Just be. Chant. Listen to the sound of one hand clapping.
3) Rational belief in God: Objective standards exist. Absolute truth exists. Logic and reason are the foundational tools of discovering truth. Apparent contradictions are flaws in one's perception, not flaws in reality. Present reality does not make sense without God and confirms God's place as creator and order maker above all things. There is a higher order and assigned meaning to events. Life has an apparent purpose. There is no need to bury our heads in the sand (1) or embrace contradiction (2). No illusion, just hard reality with an understanding that reality is more than what we see firsthand.
Faster is in camp 1, you are in camp 2 (I logically assume, correct me if wrong) and I am in camp 3. Since you seem to embrace eastern thought, I can't resist quoting Suzuki:
"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's mind there are few."
i agree, well put.
Originally posted by DT-waw
1 thing is 4 sure: ITS A GIANT LUCK THAT YOU ARE ALIVE. Enjoy life be happy you are here only for the moment
not in dark's universe, nothing is left to chance, it's all according to some grand design. 'luck' has nothing to do with it in ***DarkWorld!***/
1 thing is 4 sure: ITS A GIANT LUCK THAT YOU ARE ALIVE. Enjoy life be happy you are here only for the moment
not in dark's universe, nothing is left to chance, it's all according to some grand design. 'luck' has nothing to do with it in ***DarkWorld!***/
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