suffering from margin call constantly

[easymon1]

Thanks for freaking up the results @Overnight, because of your one vote, you changed the results by like 25%.

Just do the maths, lol! If you can't, how can you be expected to calculate ROI and R:R and shit? Teehee.

Overnight "The Thread Derailer" strikes again! LOL
The boy can't help it.
Next victim...

 

[TheDawn]

How could it not be the options??

Hes obviously nude options

He says he's doing stocks too so you never know, the options might be covered by his stocks. He says he does hedge. But what I am saying is if he's getting margin called, it must be options that are getting him margin called.

 

[Overnight]

Overnight "The Thread Derailer" strikes again! LOL
The boy can't help it.
Next victim...

I changed my vote to one of the others to make the math easier.

Here's the first one...

Whoops. Subtract 1 from the 4. 3, 2 and 2 into one hundred too tough.

So this is easier...

Now you just subtract the 1 from the top choice, and you are back to 2, 2, and 4, which comes out to neat easy numbers. 25%, 25% and 50%. Oy! Just ignore the one vote!

 

[taowave]

Im guessing he is Delta hedged and short 30 Delta or less options..

He says he's doing stocks too so you never know, the options might be covered by his stocks. He says he does hedge. But what I am saying is if he's getting margin called, it must be options that are getting him margin called.

 

[earth_imperator]

In the recent a few months, I suffered from margin call almost every trading day. Although from my point of view my portfolio is hedged well and I tried to reduce the margin as much as I could before the eod (quite often with the "help" from IB's forcing liquidation), the margin would still explode overnight and in the next morning I would see my account was with margin deficit again, from 20% ~ 60% over my total equity. Then I was given 10 minutes to fix the problem, which was often not successful because my attempted order was often rejected because IB think such order would cause margin deficit increase. And often the liquidation would kick in and I have to spend another a few hours to clean up the mess caused by the liquidation. Some times I couldn't fix it well - the market bounced back right after IB liquidated my position at a very bad price. In the Friday it would be even harder because there would be an additional post expiry margin deficit. I have no way to see the impact to such margin from the order at all, until the order was actually executed.

I composed several tickets to IB CS but so far I didn't get good answer. They usually just replied with generic information like what margin call is or why there would be liquidation when there was margin deficit. They would not disclose the details on how they calculate the margins, only saying it is their portfolio or risk based margin. BTW the link in their page to the "OCC's published list of Product Groups and Offset Parameters" is dead https://www.interactivebrokers.co.u...ex=us&rgt=1&rsk=0&pm=1&rst=101004010808010801

Anyone has the similar experience here? Can you advise how would you deal with such annoyance?

My advice: trade in a CashAcct. You'll never get any margin call. And also no PDT rule. Ie. you can even do daytrading.
See also this posting of mine about the different outcomes of different account types (CashAcct, MarginAcct):

 

[HobbyTrading]

50% Options and 50% stocks. By each EOD I tried to reduce margin rate to 80% or less. But it would increase dramatically overnight.

Be aware that, generally speaking, the margin requirement on stocks doubles overnight, after EOD.

See here what IB has to say about it: https://www.interactivebrokers.com/...hm=us&ex=us&rgt=1&rsk=0&pm=1&rst=101004110808

 

[weij]

Are you trading Portfolio Margin?

How do you define " portfolio hedged well"??

Yes
I made it delta neutral with positive or small negative theta. Also the pnls would be positive under extreme market move

 

[weij]

Many instruments have low intraday margin requirements and higher overnight margin requirements. Could this be the cause?

what is overnight margin and how to see it? I saw there are "projected look ahead initial/maintenance margin". They are equal to the non-projected ones.

 

[weij]

Im guessing he is Delta hedged and short 30 Delta or less options..

bingo. something like that except I also buy far OTM options to survive with the extreme market move.

 

[weij]

Is it better today than it was last week? I know IB margin requirements seem to increase into options expiration and then as the options expire, including if they were assigned, tends to then be lower afterwards.

but no, I Haven’t noticed large margin changes separate from investment performance or trading.

There is "post expiry margin" that work as what you described. Last friday it was >500% in the morning. Around 3pm I managed to reduce it to around 130%. I couldn't reduce further because the attempting orders were rejected and IB determine they would cause initial margin deficit. And then the liquidation reduced it to 90%. On Saturday after the assignment of the expiry options, the current margin stayed at 90%. But now on Sunday it increase to 120% again.