Sub-Prime Reality

Quote from michaelscott:

In every mortgage conduit around the nation, for example Countrywide, Indymac, etc.), there lies a department full of young aggressive relationship managers/account executives who push loans through a pipeline. Each day they print out their pipelines which can sometimes be hundreds or thousands long. From each loan that is funded, they are given a percentage (commission).

For subprime loans, usually the commission was much greater.

Now, picture this... An army of relationship managers pushing through loans at any cost. Documents being forged, manipulated and underwriters placed under pressure or even bribed. Guidelines thrown out the window and an environment where just about anyone who can sign their name gets a loan.

Then imagine these loans being packaged up and sold off to some unknowing third party. The third party might be a hedge fund or even a pension fund. In fact, the third parties might even know they are buying ticking time bombs, but dont care. They might be just traders or managers at the fund who might want to make money for the moment and not worry about the coming explosion. Hey, why not, afterall, its not their money. Its some guy's pension and not their own.

These loans are ticking time bombs that will explode in time. The picture is actually a lot worse then I have painted. I believe in time more problems will emerge especially as the economy becomes worse in the next 12 months.


Good, I hope the market implodes, from all the risky speculation to pump up the market and economy for the Republicans who were trying to hold onto congress.

Too bad it didn't work. now here comes some opportunity, just sit and wait like a vulture. I just hope congress doesn't step in to bail on the dip shits on wall street.
 
What did the "young guys" do wrong?

If borrowers give fake tax returns or lie on their application, is it necessarily their fault?

In addition, competition from loan companies made all the "NO DOC" and "no stated income" loans available and greedy buyers and borrowers of all types took advantage of them.

No 1 particular group can be blamed. The whole nation was pretty much in on it.

The Feds actually encouraged the nation to all be "homeowners".
Witness the tax law change several years back on no capital gains on owner-occupied property. This was the beginning of a huge incentive for many to buy at any cost.

It wasn't so much lying/cheating to process loans as the system funding those loans *encouraged* the stupid borrowing and housing appreciation to occur because that way, it was "reasoned" everyone was getting rich from "homeownership"


Quote from michaelscott:

Whatever those young guys did to get the comish, you can bet that not all of the procedures were filed and dishonest methods were probably used.
 
"BTW, just what DOES Gummint do for us except spend our money and confiscate liberties?"

It seems its purpose has been redefined as 'helping big business'.
 
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