stupid people

[jester]

Quote from Pig Porky:


If people were taxed too much, the money should be given back to the people that overpaid. If I buy a $50 radio and pay for it with $100, they don't keep the extra $50. Why should the government?

HERE IS THE POINT OF MY THREAD:

Presidents don't have complete control of what happens while their president. Sure, they're powerful, but they still can't control everything. I wouldn't give total credit to Clinton for a good economy and I won't give credit to Bush for a good or bad economy. It is really just beyond one man's decision making. Most likely, the good economy during the Clinton years had more to do with what happened before him, rather than the decisions he made. However, I'm not saying he had no impact. I'm just saying that it's all a chaotic mess.

If the market were to bottom and Bush doesn't get re-elected, then the next president will be given credit for such a great economy. If it's bad, they'll blame it on Bush. People just need to stop the blame BS and understand what really goes on. A president does the best he can, but does not have control over everything. If the markets are going to continue going down, they will go down no matter what Bush does.

...finally someone with a decent amount of critical logic and unemotional commentary, thank you Pig Porky....gezzus

J-

 

[Magna]

Quote from Pig Porky:

Presidents don't have complete control of what happens while their president.... A president does the best he can, but does not have control over everything.

That's not the point. A coach doesn't have "complete control", a quarterback doesn't have "complete control", when you trade the market you don't have "complete control". That's a silly, impossible criteria for determining whether someone should be held accountable. But here's the reality -- if the economy is going well the president gleefully takes the credit, so if it's going poorly then he will get well-deserved criticism (just like the coach, quarterback and trader). That is the way it is and the way it should be, no matter who he blames or how he spins it, and whether or not he's man enough to take responsibility.... whether he's man enough to say The Buck Stops Here.

 

[Madison]

Quote from Pig Porky:
If people were taxed too much, the money should be given back to the people that overpaid. If I buy a $50 radio and pay for it with $100, they don't keep the extra $50. Why should the government?

problem is that the government has been buying radios on credit for a very long time.

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

 

[bungrider]

Quote from Magna:

....whether he's man enough to say The Buck Stops Here.

That's a problem I have with W. He's not man enough to say that.

Catch his speech in Arkansas today? It was all "write your congressman and tell them you want to pay lower taxes" or "if congress passes my tax cut, then we'll all be better off."

He constantly passes the blame around for problems that are partly his own. He's saying that its the fault of the Congress that the economy is fubar'd because they are not accelerating his tax cuts.

Typical spoiled rich kid behavior. It's never his fault. Nope.

This is unreal...