Stunts Backfire on Ron DeSantis

Donald Trump is fuming after Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) flew roughly 50 migrants by plane to Martha’s Vineyard last week, claiming the Florida governor stole his idea, Rolling Stone reports.

Trump also “complained” DeSantis is “attempting to take the national news cycle away from him” and believes the “credit” for the Martha’s Vineyard stunt “should be his.”
 
Cuddles said:
weren't the replacement theorists bitching that Mexican orgs were giving maps to migrants?


*eventually. How horrible of libs to accommodate these fascism victims w/more space and better living quarters
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Yeah, keeping them in MV with all the rich folk, that just wasn't going to fly. Get them into a compound, stat.
 
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UsualName said:
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It is one thing to hypocritically rail against immigration policies (GOP had 2 years of control and did nothing because they dont want to solve the problem either just use it in elections) but to treat people like garbage is unacceptable from both sides.

DeSantis and Abbot did not move the people because they cared about their well being...he just wanted to dump them and win political points because if DeSantis becomes president in 2024 with a GOP Congress....he wont do anything either.

You dont have to let in everyone in the world who wants to overstay a visa or cross a river but you dont throw them away like garbage so you can win votes.
 
El OchoCinco said:
It is one thing to hypocritically rail against immigration policies (GOP had 2 years of control and did nothing because they dont want to solve the problem either just use it in elections) but to treat people like garbage is unacceptable from both sides.

DeSantis and Abbot did not move the people because they cared about their well being...he just wanted to dump them and win political points because if DeSantis becomes president in 2024 with a GOP Congress....he wont do anything either.

You dont have to let in everyone in the world who wants to overstay a visa or cross a river but you dont throw them away like garbage so you can win votes.
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From what I understand these people are asylum seekers who are in the country legally. And there is a whole issue that needs to be legislated about what asylum covers. Asylum should really be for persecuted people and war refugees and things like that, not because your country is a shit hole and violence and crime is high.

It may not be popular on my side of things but I actually hear what Abbott is saying about this because it is a scam and does disproportionately impact Texas. Although Texas does also get a windfall by simply being a border state in economic activity and federal funding. So there is also some balance.

DeSantis though, I don’t get it. He’s shipping asylum seekers from Texas to Florida and then from Florida to another place. That seems like a total waste of Florida taxpayers money and totally inefficient. Why not just give the money directly to Texas?
 
UsualName said:
DeSantis though, I don’t get it. He’s shipping asylum seekers from Texas to Florida and then from Florida to another place. That seems like a total waste of Florida taxpayers money and totally inefficient. Why not just give the money directly to Texas?
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Guy's gotta keep his name in the news cycle. 2024, don't you know.
 
UsualName said:
From what I understand these people are asylum seekers who are in the country legally. And there is a whole issue that needs to be legislated about what asylum covers. Asylum should really be for persecuted people and war refugees and things like that, not because your country is a shit hole and violence and crime is high.

It may not be popular on my side of things but I actually hear what Abbott is saying about this because it is a scam and does disproportionately impact Texas. Although Texas does also get a windfall by simply being a border state in economic activity and federal funding. So there is also some balance.

DeSantis though, I don’t get it. He’s shipping asylum seekers from Texas to Florida and then from Florida to another place. That seems like a total waste of Florida taxpayers money and totally inefficient. Why not just give the money directly to Texas?
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Yeah asylum was never defined because in the old days it was pretty clear the situation. Now anyone crossing will simply check the asylum box. Again...both parties have been in power and could have created a system as to what it means to declare and what criteria. Living in a poor country where crime is high is shitty but not what asylum was intended for (main reason in recent history was to open the doors to refugees from communist countries as part of the cold war).

But DeSantis has nothing to do with texas so reaching out to grab 40 people and spend money to drop them in MV is just cruel in many ways. All it does is inflame a base Desantis already has and piss off opponnents but 40 people are treated like garbage. In other words it gains nothing politically...just keeps a narcissist in the headlines and in front of crowds because 2024 is too far away.

If he sent the money to Abbot you can see a valid argument to say "Federal government is not doing their job but we will support Texas and the border with any funds we can make available" Easy message and garners the same support or in fact wins over more support.

Immigration and COVID involved millions of lives but the Dems and GOP turned it intoa political football game to win points and could give zero fucks about the people stuck in the middle. Just like COVID..if GOP wins with a sweep in 2024 there will suddenly by NO immigration problem.
 
Bexar County Sheriff announces investigation into how migrants went from Texas to Martha's Vineyard

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/19/us/bexar-county-texas-migrant-investigation/index.html

A Texas sheriff said Monday evening his agency will open an investigation into the transportation of 48 Venezuelan migrants from the state to Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts.

Bexar County Sheriff Javier Salazar, a Democrat, told reporters at a Monday news conference that his understanding was that on Wednesday a Venezuelan migrant was paid a "bird dog fee" to recruit 50 migrants from a resource center in San Antonio.

The sheriff said he believes laws were not only broken in Bexar County in transporting nearly 50 migrants to Martha's Vineyard but that parallel laws were also broken on the federal side. San Antonio is the county seat of Bexar County. The south Texas county, about 160 miles north of the Mexico border, has a population of about 2 million.

A total of 48 migrants were "lured" to a hotel where they were housed for two days, according to Salazar.

The migrants were flown to Florida and then later transported to Martha's Vineyard under "false pretenses," he said.

The sheriff said they were flown to Martha's Vineyard for "a photo-op and stranded." He believes the migrants were "exploited and hoodwinked" into making the trip for political posturing.

The sheriff has been speaking with an attorney who represents some of the migrants for first-hand accounts of what took place, Salazar told reporters.

The allegations that he has heard thus far are "disgusting and a violation of human rights," he said.

Salazar said he believes there needs to be accountability for what happened.

DeSantis says migrants were treated well, signed forms
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has claimed credit for flying the migrants to Martha's Vineyard. In an interview with Fox News on Monday night, DeSantis defended his decision.

"They all signed consent forms to go and then the vendor that is doing this for Florida provided them with a packet that had a map of Martha's Vineyard, it has the number for different services that are on Martha's Vineyard," DeSantis said.

"Why wouldn't they want to go, given where they were? They were in really, really bad shape and they got to be cleaned up, everything, treated well," he added.

When asked earlier about the investigation, DeSantis spokesperson Taryn Fenske gave CNN the following statement: "Immigrants have been more than willing to leave Bexar County after being abandoned, homeless, and 'left to fend for themselves.'

"Florida gave them an opportunity to seek greener pastures in a sanctuary jurisdiction that offered greater resources for them, as we expected. Unless the MA national guard has abandoned these individuals, they have been provided accommodations, sustenance, clothing and more options to succeed following their unfair enticement into the United States, unlike the 53 immigrants who died in a truck found abandoned in Bexar County this June. "

Attorneys for many of the migrants said Monday that brochures given to their clients were "highly misleading" and "used to entice (their) clients to travel under the guise that (resettlement) support was available to them."

The brochure lists refugee services, including cash and housing assistance, clothing, transportation to job interviews, job training and assistance registering children for school, among other resources.

One Venezuelan migrant, who spoke to CNN on the condition of anonymity for fear of negative impacts on their immigration case, shared images of the brochure. They said migrants were told that the brochure had information on the assistance they would receive in Massachusetts, but they were not told about the differences in programs for refugees and asylum seekers.

Migrants are, in many cases, asylum seekers, not refugees. Refugees apply for protection overseas and are admitted through the refugee admissions program, whereas asylum seekers apply within the United States.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1571990089638596609

Florida paid aviation company under migrant relocation program, records show
Days after migrants were flown to Martha's Vineyard, Florida's Department of Transportation paid $950,000 to Vertol Sytsems, an aviation company based in Destin, Florida, as part of DeSantis' program to relocate migrants, according to state budget records.

The $950,000 payment is the second payment the transportation department has made so far to support the DeSantis program, budget records show.

Additional budget records reviewed by CNN also show that the second payment of $950,000 was requested by the state on September 16, two days after the flights to Martha's Vineyard.

The budget records do not detail what kind of "contracted services" Vertol provided the department, nor is it clear whether the two payments were for two flights to Martha's Vineyard that were flown and operated by Ultimate Jet Charters, a separate private jet company based in Ohio.

CNN has previously reached out to Ultimate Jet Charters, Vertol Systems and the Florida Department of Transportation about the flights, but has not received a response.

A previous payment of $615,000 was made on September 8, six days before the Martha's Vineyard flight. In total, the state of Florida has paid Vertol $1,565,000 to provide "contracted services" for DeSantis' migrant relocation program.

Republican DeSantis signed a budget earlier this year that allocated $12 million "for implementing a program to facilitate the transport of unauthorized aliens from this state consistent with federal law."

DeSantis said last week that he intends to spend "every penny" of that money. "These are just the beginning efforts," he said. "We've got an infrastructure in place now. There's going to be a lot more that's happening."

Sheriff would welcome federal help
Salazar told reporters he will be working with federal agencies and welcomes White House assistance.

"Absolutely parts of this case are going to have to go federal, and there's going to have to be some coordination that goes along with that," he said. "So absolutely, I would welcome the White House or anybody else from the federal side to give us a call and help us out with whatever they can," he said.

President Joe Biden met Friday with members of his administration to talk about immigration issues.

A White House official said the meeting had been planned before Texas Gov. Greg Abbott sent two busloads of migrants to Vice President Kamala Harris' residence in Washington on Thursday and DeSantis sent two planes carrying migrants to Martha's Vineyard.
Biden has accused the Republicans of "playing politics with human beings" and "using them as props" in response to those stunts.
 
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