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strike on iraq
- Thread starter ElCubano
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TigerO, you go to an obviously free-market conservative web site to post all your cut and paste knee jerk liberal crap, and then YOU GET MAD WHEN YOU ARE OPPOSED.
What a whiny loser. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen !
Max, you did a good job. You beat him down so low that he had nothing left but to call you gay. And you have to admit it is pretty funny to see a leftie calling someone gay as an insult, since they stand for gay rights ! he he.
What a whiny loser. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen !
Max, you did a good job. You beat him down so low that he had nothing left but to call you gay. And you have to admit it is pretty funny to see a leftie calling someone gay as an insult, since they stand for gay rights ! he he.
Originally posted by MondoTrader
TigerO, you go to an obviously free-market conservative web site to post all your cut and paste knee jerk liberal crap, and then YOU GET MAD WHEN YOU ARE OPPOSED.
What a whiny loser. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen !
Max, you did a good job. You beat him down so low that he had nothing left but to call you gay. And you have to admit it is pretty funny to see a leftie calling someone gay as an insult, since they stand for gay rights ! he he.
What? You mean they didn't teach:
"Play your stupid games with yourself, buddy. Or, as you've very aptly been called here by others who've seen through your spiel of spinning and twisting facts, just coming up with endless BS: QUEEN OF SPIN"
or "See, Mayqueen, people see right through you and your spiel."
or "What, Mayqueen Maxie, some more assessments of your being a total fruitcake?"
in debating class?
Wow...a new low in stupid statements! Congratulations. (By the way, it is spelled "lefty". But hey, it is a tough word for a neo-nazi). Most of you didn't get past the 5th grade, as we all know, so it's understandable.Originally posted by MondoTrader
And you have to admit it is pretty funny to see a leftie calling someone gay as an insult, since they stand for gay rights ! he he.
Have an nice day up in the Idaho panhandle, or whichever panhandle you live in.
MD
Originally posted by marcD
Wow...a new low in stupid statements! Congratulations. (By the way, it is spelled "lefty". But hey, it is a tough word for a neo-nazi). Most of you didn't get past the 5th grade, as we all know, so it's understandable.
Have an nice day up in the Idaho panhandle, or whichever panhandle you live in.
MD
The post of which you complain was a rebuttal to an even more ludicrous, non-factual and non-existent argumentative point and hence couched in language that possessed the best chance of an idiot comprehending.
Max, you sure have all the answers.
What can anyone say to you? It is agree or be wrong.
Must be great for you to live in a black and white world. However, most of us really enjoy all the different colors, hues and shades that you never get to see.
But at least you don't get distracted. I guess it must work beautifully for you.
Goose stepping your way through life. What fun it must be. Do you get to wear the shiny boots too?
Do you at least get to wear a brown shirt with the uniform? Is that color permitted?
Mien Fuhrer, you are a true patriot! Find the scapegoats, kill them all. Way to go. Say hi for us to your Arian Nation brothers in arms.
MD
What can anyone say to you? It is agree or be wrong.
Must be great for you to live in a black and white world. However, most of us really enjoy all the different colors, hues and shades that you never get to see.
But at least you don't get distracted. I guess it must work beautifully for you.
Goose stepping your way through life. What fun it must be. Do you get to wear the shiny boots too?
Do you at least get to wear a brown shirt with the uniform? Is that color permitted?
Mien Fuhrer, you are a true patriot! Find the scapegoats, kill them all. Way to go. Say hi for us to your Arian Nation brothers in arms.
MD
Originally posted by marcD
Max, you sure have all the answers.
What can anyone say to you? It is agree or be wrong.
Must be great for you to live in a black and white world. However, most of us really enjoy all the different colors, hues and shades that you never get to see.
But at least you don't get distracted. I guess it must work beautifully for you.
Goose stepping your way through life. What fun it must be. Do you get to wear the shiny boots too?
Do you at least get to wear a brown shirt with the uniform? Is that color permitted?
Mien Fuhrer, you are a true patriot! Find the scapegoats, kill them all. Way to go. Say hi for us to your Arian Nation brothers in arms.
MD
Excuse me, but instead of letting me win by default with your meritless assumptions, you should present a valid rebuttal to argue your point. Using a "You're never wrong." lament is defeatist at best. Branding someone as a Nazi is an even worse offense and is equally ridiculous as some of these previous responses from those posters you seemingly are attempting to "defend:"
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"Play your stupid games with yourself, buddy. Or, as you've very aptly been called here by others who've seen through your spiel of spinning and twisting facts, just coming up with endless BS: QUEEN OF SPIN"
Mayqueen, good to see you're still goin strong
Plus, of course, your equally sick desire for blood in a dumb war, the blood of others, that is??
With you looking on and cheering from a safe distance??
Oh, and quit wasting storage space with your total BULLSHIT.
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Do these qualify as valid rebuttal arguments to you?
Originally posted by TigerO
The national economy of the US including state, corporate and private households, have a total debt of $30,000 Billion, almost 3 times as much as GDP, costing us $2000 Billion in interest p.a., basically equal to all new credits taken up in recent years, then you get the picture.
LOL, I guess that's just great for you, no problem.
never said it isn't a problem. the real problem is the "solutions" created by geniuses like you and your leftist buddies that not only continually fail to solve the "problems" you declare exist (often without any kind of justification apart from your own idealised version of how the world should be) but create more problems, for which there never seems to be any acceptance of responsiblity. now THAT is a REAL problem.
But, sure, just do some namecalling, like BleedingHeart, Liberal, and you hope the problem will go away, that you're hoping people are still dumb enough to fall for this cracked up ideology bit and ignore the real problems.
naturally i would say exactly the same thing to you, oh anointed one with all the answers.
And, hey, let's go start a war, because, well, absolutely no idea why, but, then again, why not. Cause Bush says so, haha.
And it'll sure detract from our national problems nicely.
now, the thing is we DO have an idea why. what gets most clouded is intelligent, honest discussion of the validity of that why (whys). because, as you allude to with your last sentence, this possible war is made a political issue. not just by the bush camp, but by the democrats also. unfortunately, that's one of the negative aspects of our political system.
Originally posted by TigerO
The national economy of the US including state, corporate and private households, have a total debt of $30,000 Billion, almost 3 times as much as GDP, costing us $2000 Billion in interest p.a., basically equal to all new credits taken up in recent years, then you get the picture.
Percentage of US children who live in poverty: 20%
(U.S. Census Bureau, 2000)
Number of families or primary individuals who live in mobile homes or trailers: 6.8 million
(U.S. Census Bureau, American Housing Survey, 1999)
A survey of 26 industrialized nations (the Luxembourg Income Study) found that the gap between the wealthiest 10% and the poorest 10% is greater in the United States than any other country except Russia (Wallechinsky 6).
Real weekly wages in the U.S. rose until 1973, and have been declining since.
How the USA Stacks Up
Among the 21 most affluent nations, the United States has the highest percentage of poor children. In fact, our rate is twice that of the country next in line.
In 1996, millions more Americans lived in poverty than in 1964. A 1996 Fordham University report says the country's social well-being has reached its lowest point in a quarter century, with children and young people suffering most.
In order to form an immaculate member of a flock of sheep one must, above all, be a sheep." -- Albert Einstein
a little detraction from a stark and unpleasant, for very many, reality is always a "nice change", hmm, welcomed by those on the receiving end, instrumentalized by those doing the doling out.
if all you have to your name is your country, then that country engaging in a war that is euphemistically, albeit falsely, being sold as a war of good against evil, then that at least poses a short respite from a harsh reality.
unfortunately, it's also almost inevitably the small person on the street that will have to suffer the main consequences of political "games", whose backfiring is a question of when, not if.
And, as ever, we must not forget:
The threat from Iraq is exaggerated. Other despotic countries have or are seeking weapons of mass destruction (Syria, Libya, North Korea, Iran, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia), have invaded their neighbors (Syria, Libya, and North Korea), and even used chemical weapons (Libya in Chad during the 1980s). Moreover, Iraq's military has been devastated by the Gulf War and a decade of sanctions. Americans should ask why the United States -- half a world away -- is more concerned about the Iraqi threat than are Iraq's neighbors.
http://www.cato.org/dailys/08-19-02.html
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The suspicion will not die that the Bush administration turned to Iraq for relief from a sharp decline in its domestic political prospects. The news had been dominated for months by corporate scandals and the fall of the stock market, and the November elections were shaping up as a referendum on the Republican's handling of domestic social and economic issues. Bush is reversing a half-century of strategic doctrine on the grounds that the new enemies America faces are not like the risk-averse Soviet Union.
But at the time George Kennan and others formulated the theory of deterrence, the Soviet ruler had long been Joseph Stalin, not known for being risk-averse. There is no evidence that any of the countries in Bush's axis of evil -- Iraq, Iran and North Korea -- are not deterrable according to the same logic that worked with the Soviets.
In making war against Iraq, Bush is risking not just American lives but America's good name. His high-handed attitude toward our allies has already earned the United States unnecessary ill will.
Unlike the Gulf War, however, the United States is going into this conflict with little international legitimacy or support.
http://www.prospect.org/print/V13/19/editors.html
brent scowcroft, national security advisor to presidents gerald ford & george bush senior:
Don't Attack Saddam
It would undermine our antiterror efforts
http://www.opinionjournal.com/edito...ml?id=110002133