Strategy risk vs overall risk mandate

30% is a brutal drawdown. You have to get 42% just to break even.
That takes time to recover and like they say time is money.
One of the reasons I'm a trader is that I didn't like the drawdowns and having to wait for things to turn around.
I made the decision not to hold losers in my portfolio. Have had no nasty drawdowns since then.
But isn’t this basically index investing, since you only stay in the best performers?
 
Unless you are like me, already over the hill, with the magic of compounding, in another 30 years, you can turn a few thousand into a million with a 20% a year return. :D
Back of the envelope, at 20% return you’d turn 1k into 240k after 30 years assuming zero volatility. Compounding is a miracle but not a big miracle :)
 
But isn’t this basically index investing, since you only stay in the best performers?
In a way it is, I rebalance more often than the index, don't have the diversification and don't suffer the drawdowns. For the most part I outperform the index.
 
30% is a brutal drawdown. You have to get 42% just to break even.
That takes time to recover and like they say time is money.
One of the reasons I'm a trader is that I didn't like the drawdowns and having to wait for things to turn around.
I made the decision not to hold losers in my portfolio. Have had no nasty drawdowns since then.
You are a trader, I am a speculator.

As I said in another post elsewhere, time will favor absolute returns in a volatile instrument with high drift vs a less volatile instrument with low drift.
 
You are a trader, I am a speculator.
(chuckle) I refer to myself as a speculator. I move in and out of the market speculating on the price movement of assets that investors invest in. What makes me a speculator is that I might hold for the long term as long as the asset price moves in my direction.

I'm a risk adverse speculator as I don't hold any assets that move against me.

I could be considered a trader as I move in and out of the market as dictated by price movement. The one thing I'm not is an investor.

How do you differenciate between trading and speculation?
 
(chuckle) I refer to myself as a speculator. I move in and out of the market speculating on the price movement of assets that investors invest in. What makes me a speculator is that I might hold for the long term as long as the asset price moves in my direction.

I'm a risk adverse speculator as I don't hold any assets that move against me.

I could be considered a trader as I move in and out of the market as dictated by price movement. The one thing I'm not is an investor.

How do you differenciate between trading and speculation?
I don't know. I think there is really a continuum.

I am thinking a trader is like a middleman, buying and selling, doesn't hold for long, makes money on the spread?? When I day trade, I trade in and out for small spreads.

A speculator? One who buys/sells, willing to hold out for huge profits and willing to risk it all if he does not get his price?? When I speculate with options, I hold it to expiration, willing to lose it all in return for potentially X times what I paid for.
 
I am thinking a trader is like a middleman, buying and selling, doesn't hold for long, makes money on the spread?? When I day trade, I trade in and out for small spreads.
I agree
A speculator? One who buys/sells, willing to hold out for huge profits and willing to risk it all if he does not get his price?? When I speculate with options, I hold it to expiration, willing to lose it all in return for potentially X times what I paid for.
Risk it all sounds more like a gambler.
I'm quite willing to hold on for huge profits but I see no reason to risk it all.
I maintain that the difference between a gambler and a speculator is prudent risk management.
 
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