Story Of Obama

"I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive.

Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.

<"that" meaning roads and bridges>

The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together."


Much ado about, at worst, some awkward wording, and the statement is essentially true.

Of course most righties have difficulty with reading comprehension and are very suggestible, so they see it differently. And they saw it on Fox News or some other righty source where it was given no context and they left off the last two sentences.
 
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"I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive.

Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.

<"that" meaning roads and bridges>

The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together."


Much ado about, at worst, some awkward wording, and the statement is essentially true.

Of course most righties have difficulty with reading comprehension and are very suggestible, so they see it differently. And they saw it on Fox News or some other righty source where it was given no context and they left off the last two sentences.
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All of us should be thankful that public service employees did the job they were payed to do.
What is Obama inferring?
What you posted here is Obama's argument to say that all the successful people owe the State more money. Where do you draw the line? At what point is the tax structure progressive enough?
Top 50% pay 100%????
Top 20% pay 40%????

The liberals never will define this number.
 
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The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together."

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Which is of course bullshit and a laughably logically flawed argument, perhaps it's you who are reading comprehension impaired.

nah that couldn't be it.

My conclusion is that it's because you have your head up your arse.
 
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"...Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen...
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You can spin it any way you want, but in correct English, which Obama speaks well, the "that" in question is attributed to the last noun in his sentence, which is "business". The man is contemptuous of free enterprise and amall business in particular, and he shows it every chance he gets.
 
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".. Where do you draw the line? At what point is the tax structure progressive enough?
Top 50% pay 100%????
Top 20% pay 40%????

The liberals never will define this number.
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America is currently close to having "top 50% pay 100%" and..

Top 1% paying 40%, right?
 
Liberals will insist on higher taxes for the more successful taxpayers until there's no one who makes more or less than the average. Then they will shift all their attention on increasing the power of the State. That's the communist ideal: everybody is equal (=the same) and the government owns everything for its bureaucrats to apportion the goods as they see fit. You think we defeated that idea in the 80s with the collapse of the Soviet Union? Think again. And don't forget that China is coming, perhaps sooner than expected. :(
 
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You can spin it any way you want, but in correct English, which Obama speaks well, the "that" in question is attributed to the last noun in his sentence, which is "business". The man is contemptuous of free enterprise and amall business in particular, and he shows it every chance he gets.
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Yes, but if one has some reading comprehension, which righties don't , one would understand what he was trying to say.

To assume he is contemptuous of free enterprise and is giving all the credit for successful businesses to the government is just fucking stupid.
 
Two Videoclips, 26 Years Apart

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:cool:
 
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Liberals will insist on higher taxes for the more successful taxpayers until there's no one who makes more or less than the average. Then they will shift all their attention on increasing the power of the State. That's the communist ideal: everybody is equal (=the same) and the government owns everything for its bureaucrats to apportion the goods as they see fit.
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CORRECTAMUNDO! And isn't fleeing from such tyranny the basic premise upon which this country was founded?
 
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