Stop The Obama Tax Avalanche

Quote from Yannis:

Truth is, I am a Conservative Independent and don't really like either party. They both mess up more than I want to tolerate.

But, going the Socialism route is extremely dangerous - we've got to keep private enterprise in charge of our economy.

We elect our politicians not on the basis of their ability to govern but on the basis of their ability to persuade (and money in the bank) which is a huge problem. Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton and Bush Jr all almost broke under pressure. This one, Obama, started off screwing up big, what with the $trillions he's borrowing and throwing at his pet causes. Imo, we need to tighten the situation around him or else he's going to hurt us more than any of the others.
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The problem is, you dont know what socialism is, its a Con talking point. I know you are going to bring healthcare as the socialist example next, so do checkout what the Top Most Conservative ThinkTank thought about reforming healthcare, it even had a public option! :eek: - http://www.heritage.org/Research/Re...Credits-to-Create-an-Affordable-Health-System
 
Quote from tomdavis:

My neighbor's business in well into that top bracket, but since business is down from where it was, most of his after-tax profits are going to pay back bank loans.
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Well, end of the day, those trillion dollar wars and unfunded 700 billion Medicare overhaul have to be paid somehow, the fiscal irresponsibility of the previous administration doesn't leave too many options to continue all tax cuts.
 
Quote from hermit:

The problem is, you dont know what socialism is...
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Well, check this out: "Socialism is an economic and political theory advocating public or common ownership and cooperative management of the means of production and allocation of resources."

Remind you of anyone? Tax and spend while, in the process, Government grows out of bounds and gobbles up industry after industry? Labor unions calling the shots? Redistribution of wealth? :(
 
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Well, end of the day, those trillion dollar wars and unfunded 700 billion Medicare overhaul have to be paid somehow, the fiscal irresponsibility of the previous administration doesn't leave too many options to continue all tax cuts.
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I agree with you that Bush was a profligate spender and fiscally irresponsible. In 8 years he never did figure out what "veto" means. That said, raising taxes in the middle of the worst economic downturn since the 1930s will make things worse, not better.
 
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Well, end of the day, those trillion dollar wars and unfunded 700 billion Medicare overhaul have to be paid somehow...
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Why can't we just pay for it through reduced federal spending?
 
can we all at least agree next time to have a war tax,,a buck a gallon tax on fuel would have raised a 100 bil,,if we all agree we need to go to war,,then at least lets pay for it instead of giving china a much needed boost to there economy with the bush tax cuts
 
Quote from Lucrum:

Why can't we just pay for it through reduced federal spending?
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Just stopping the pork-laden earmarks would take us a long way there.
 
Quote from bullmarket79:

can we all at least agree next time to have a war tax,,a buck a gallon tax on fuel would have raised a 100 bil,,if we all agree we need to go to war,,then at least lets pay for it instead of giving china a much needed boost to there economy with the bush tax cuts
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Nope, wars and massive entitlement programs written by corporate shills comes Free, no costs attached. In fact you never even put them on the budget, you let the incoming President do that and then claim its his fault for the trillion dollar spending increase.
 
Quote from Yannis:

A Few Good Words From Fred Thompson

http://leagueofamericanvoters.com/petition.aspx?key=700845&s=al&promo_code=AB31-1

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America needs waaaayyyy more than to merely "preserve the Bush tax rates"... if we want to put our unemployed back to work.

American needs to "embrace Capitalism".... (1) a tax and regulatory policy which would ATTRACT CAPITAL.. incentivise foreign companies to do business in America and employ our workers, and (2) get people to be responsible for themselves rather than sit on their fat asses in front of their government subsidized big-screen TV watching Oprah, American Idol, Dancing With The Stars... powered by government subsidized utility bill payments, sitting on their government subsidized couch, in their government subsidized housing, scarfing their favorite government subsidized (via food stamps) snack.

Think there is any chance of that? :(
 
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