Winning or losing has no bearing on this at all. I Was lied to and others also, i was told things in confidence from other members who had a sispicion so I began to look into things and found out that yes, I was lied to and the whole thing is not what it was made out to be. I never lost big on any one of the trades and overall I was up when I left. I did not want to stay with a site who continues to lie about everything. Read my previous posts on this thread and look at what I said, you will see the many questions that were raised and will never be answered. We are all adults and can make our own decisions, I feel I was scammed and until I see eveidence that I wasnt, I feel that I was and others were.