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AAPL, -2

Apple is now being run by businessmen again. It has seen it's best days. There are probably one, maybe two more products that could easily take the stock higher to perhaps even $500. But as far as having that magic of and culture of inventing for the pure joy of having a product that makes your life genuinely better, well, you will know when talent starts to leave.

The technical people that worked there wanted to work for Steve, because Steve allowed them to make products that were simply fun, beautiful, and looked toward a future that freed human beings to be full of creativity, in style. Technology that truly empowered us, free from any pretense and rules. We all felt like DaVinci, Bill Gates, and Mick Jagger all rolled into one using an Apple product. The people that worked for Steve did it because it was their own dream, not for monetary rewards. Not some person whose main goal is to make money for the shareholders. It is simply impossible for a canned business person to run Apple.
 
Stock model has been pummeled the last three days. It is hanging on to a 1/2 % gain.

It is definitely skewed to the downside. I need "better" selection, whatever better means.
 
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I am looking for this long term, so I stay. This is what I think. This price can be at the high of $38.00 in 1999 with (less global market) AND (high pay for the union worker) in this time.
Now poorer countries move to the middle and can have cars. Ford is taking some share of this growth (AND) have negociaciones with the union to help to their labor cost (AND) pay down some debt.
I see growth. :)
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Well, all you and I are doing is playing the game. As you recall from this thread,

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=180234&highlight=catechism

the value of a stock, in the absence of dividends, is what you can sell it to someone else for. PERIOD. In the absence of those dividends, the only way to extract money from that stock is to hope that someone else thinks their version of the illusion is worth more than your version. The rules of Present Value, in the absence of Cash Flows, are changing all the time. All we do is learn to play the game, and then decide which side of the multitude of illusions captures the mind of the money-masters that moves stocks. You hope that all of that analysis will mean something to someone in the future.

Mind you, in this thread we are not worried about philosophy, but playing the game. But it helps to realize that.
 
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Well, all you and I are doing is playing the game. As you recall from this thread,

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=180234&highlight=catechism

the value of a stock, in the absence of dividends, is what you can sell it to someone else for. PERIOD. In the absence of those dividends, the only way to extract money from that stock is to hope that someone else thinks their version of the illusion is worth more than your version.
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Yes. But you say "illusion". I am not thinking this is illusion. I am thinking Ford have capacidad para grow because they are going to almost bankrupt to restructure. Now they have focus to efficient fuel car and to the trucks. Their stock price is not like the Google or the AMZN but is very far from the high.


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