If past record is anything to go by, Steve Jobs' life expectancy just doubled after retaildaytrader made this post.
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Steve Jobs is dieing...SHORT APPLE NOW!
- Thread starter retaildaytrader
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If you look at the statistics, Jobs chances are slim...also look at the wording of the email. Last time he specified a firm date when he would be back...this time no firm date, a proclamation of love and then a "hope" he would be back soon. Not very encouraging.
Lets say Jobs does come back, will he be in the same shape as before having the exact same motivations? Sometimes after considerable illnesses people are weaker and do not have the same motivation as before. Last time, they didnt say anything and he had a major surgery. Jobs claims that he almost died looking for a liver. I can only wonder what it is this time.
In any event, Apple under Cook is not worth the same as Apple under Jobs. Two different people, different leaders...just not the same as before. How will Jobs tend to the strategic decision making while undergoing a major operation?
Lets say Jobs does come back, will he be in the same shape as before having the exact same motivations? Sometimes after considerable illnesses people are weaker and do not have the same motivation as before. Last time, they didnt say anything and he had a major surgery. Jobs claims that he almost died looking for a liver. I can only wonder what it is this time.
In any event, Apple under Cook is not worth the same as Apple under Jobs. Two different people, different leaders...just not the same as before. How will Jobs tend to the strategic decision making while undergoing a major operation?
Quote from retaildaytrader:
Now is the time to short APPLE!!! I have great respect for Steve Jobs. In tribute to Jobs, I am going to short a bunch of Apple on Monday. I think this is it. Steve Jobs has made his last Iphone. From here on, its time to short short short...
Thanks for the fade. I don't usually trade stocks so without your thread I'd have never noticed this.
This really was a cinch to go long by 09.32 this morning!
Especially letting everyone digest the news, make sure the stock was down heavily premarket - give people time to get their orders in. Naughty!
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The reason why Jobs is now no good for Apple is because he isn't letting the company open up it's software and the like. Over his dead body excuse the pun.
If/when he (sadly) passes you see what the ALREADY in place management team does.
Jobs is at present getting to be like the old Henry Ford. There would be no Ford without him but from about 1935 onwards he started to get in the way, hindered more than he helped and towards the end he was just a menace.
Lot's of companies, both big and small, have this same problem from the 'old man', the founder/original leader.
Also, another thing to remember, Jobs is only really big in the insular US, but outside in the real world, especially in the big growing markets of China/India they probably don't even know he exists, but they know ALL about Apple products.
If/when he (sadly) passes you see what the ALREADY in place management team does.
Jobs is at present getting to be like the old Henry Ford. There would be no Ford without him but from about 1935 onwards he started to get in the way, hindered more than he helped and towards the end he was just a menace.
Lot's of companies, both big and small, have this same problem from the 'old man', the founder/original leader.
Also, another thing to remember, Jobs is only really big in the insular US, but outside in the real world, especially in the big growing markets of China/India they probably don't even know he exists, but they know ALL about Apple products.
Quote from AK100:
The reason why Jobs is now no good for Apple is because he isn't letting the company open up it's software and the like. Over his dead body excuse the pun.
If/when he (sadly) passes you see what the ALREADY in place management team does.
Jobs is at present getting to be like the old Henry Ford. There would be no Ford without him but from about 1935 onwards he started to get in the way, hindered more than he helped and towards the end he was just a menace.
Lot's of companies, both big and small, have this same problem from the 'old man', the founder/original leader.
Also, another thing to remember, Jobs is only really big in the insular US, but outside in the real world, especially in the big growing markets of China/India they probably don't even know he exists, but they know ALL about Apple products.
Dont forget that after Jobs left in the late 80s Apple started to open up their software to outside companies...we saw what that got them
Quote from retaildaytrader:
Now is the time to short APPLE!!! I have great respect for Steve Jobs. In tribute to Jobs, I am going to short a bunch of Apple on Monday. I think this is it. Steve Jobs has made his last Iphone. From here on, its time to short short short...
How is that working out for ya?
Quote from david666:
Dont forget that after Jobs left in the late 80s Apple started to open up their software to outside companies...we saw what that got them
The stat used to be 3 months = 1 internet year. Similar to cats/dogs lives etc
That's too much now but anyway the 1980s are about 75+ years from where we are at present.
Sadly Jobs looks like he's going yet aapl is down 2% so the market doesn't seem to rate his non-presence that much.
Time will tell, aapl is going to move big from here over the next 2 years, that much we know. My bet is it holds its strength but then goes the same way as all the other big name techs of the past.
Who's going to take its place? Far more money to be made there than with aapl (long or short).
Quote from atticus:
Another to add to your greatest hits. BSD with a GUI and OOE was not a fad. It's akin to stating OSX is a fad; or linux for that matter.
NextSTEP was not "BSD with a GUI." The *BSD's already had a GUI by the time the NeXT appeared; XFree86.
NextSTEP was an entirely different animal based on the Mach kernel (Carnegie Mellon, not Berkeley) that happened to come with some userspace BSD code.
Also, this isn't about fads. It's about being a commercially successful product, and NeXT certainly wasn't one.