Sterling trader & automated trading

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calhawk01

hi;

I have strategies in Ninjatrader. Fully automated. I want to connect them to sterling for execution. It seems that is not possible.

Sterling looks to be a horrible platform. Not sure why mostly all prop shop even have this in their inventory. It seems no prop shop even has a decent automating platform in their inventory. Sterling automation requires super advance programming.

Any idea what I can do? Are there tools/stand alone softwares like tradestation, multichart, ninjatrader that can connect to sterling?

The reason why I can't get away from sterling is because it's the only platform that my prop shop offers... and mostly all other prop shops offer.

Thaks
 
I am not totally sure, but it sounds to me like you probably would need to decouple your strategies from NinjaTrader, which would require extensive programming, unless you coded yourself and made things fairly portable. Last I saw NinjaTrader doesn't support FIX, so my guess is that without explicit support from the brokerage, you can't use NinjaTrader (but you might check with their customer support to be sure).

I've used Sterling for automated trading -- it's not too bad, but to do what you want to do probably warrants multithreading (as it did for me), which isn't the easiest thing in the world to code. I've used a lot of platforms for automated trading (but not Ninja), and Sterling was actually one of the better ones, in my opinion, as it's pretty good with order types, etc.

You might want to see whether your broker can give you a straight FIX connection; it will be much more reliable and "cross-platform", although it may be even harder to get up and running than the Sterling API. But FIX is far more robust; e.g., it will re-send messages if there's a disconnect. Probably requires quite a bit of programming, though (unless Ninja itself can connect to FIX directly, a feature they supposedly were thinking of adding, if they haven't finished it already).
 
Occam said:
I am not totally sure, but it sounds to me like you probably would need to decouple your strategies from NinjaTrader, which would require extensive programming, unless you coded yourself and made things fairly portable. Last I saw NinjaTrader doesn't support FIX, so my guess is that without explicit support from the brokerage, you can't use NinjaTrader (but you might check with their customer support to be sure).

I've used Sterling for automated trading -- it's not too bad, but to do what you want to do probably warrants multithreading (as it did for me), which isn't the easiest thing in the world to code. I've used a lot of platforms for automated trading (but not Ninja), and Sterling was actually one of the better ones, in my opinion, as it's pretty good with order types, etc.

You might want to see whether your broker can give you a straight FIX connection; it will be much more reliable and "cross-platform", although it may be even harder to get up and running than the Sterling API. But FIX is far more robust; e.g., it will re-send messages if there's a disconnect. Probably requires quite a bit of programming, though (unless Ninja itself can connect to FIX directly, a feature they supposedly were thinking of adding, if they haven't finished it already).
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I agree. I have to get away from NT.

But what I don't understand is why a "robust" software that is offered by pretty much every single prop shop (sterling) doesn't have a simple way to create even a simple crossover strategy.

The strategy I'm trying to convert.. The logic is so damn easy. With most trading softwares such as NT, tradestation, multichart it would take about 5 min to create and go live with the strategy. But NOOOO not with "robust" "preferred" software sterling. Such rubbish. I'm beyond frustrated. And the sucky thing is.. I can't even find any programmers that could make this for me at a affordable rate. This one person offered to do it for 6k. For a simple crossover strat!
 
I have a lot of experience with Sterling having written a greybox algo which has been operational for over 2yrs. It's fine for just sending out orders and getting position info but does not provide any historical data, just real-time quotes and orderbook. You will need to connect to another data source for the analytics for signal generation. If you need more info pm me and I can guide you more.
 
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