Stephen Hawking on human extinction

[377OHMS]

Quote from pspr:

Futurecurrents should give credit to wikipedia if he is going to cut and paste their material as his post.

I think he needs to go talk to my tree, too.

"He" might be a she. It is a very feminine trait to require drama in ones life.

If my GF can't find some drama in the events of the day she will usually create her own.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from 377OHMS:

Pure bunk.

Feel free, however, to take up residence in a cave and eat raw food. Unless you are doing so right now you are a hypocrite. How have you altered your lifestyle in response to this manufactured crisis?

The rest of us will continue to live as we do, thanks.

Frankly the world has serious problems to contend with in the next year like averting World War III.

Typical brain-dead denier response. They can't fight the science so they throw up red herrings. The fact of AGW is not dependent on my lifestyle. I'm surprised I haven't heard the name "AL Gore" more. That one always makes the rabid righty deniers start foaming at the mouth and makes further rational discussion impossible, if it was ever possible to begin with.

 

[futurecurrents]

Maybe you will pay more attention if it's from that oracle of disinformation...Fox News.

The world's largest general scientific society on Sunday joined the concern over global climate change, calling it a "growing threat to society."
It is the first consensus statement of the board of the American Association for the Advancement of Science on climate change. It comes just weeks after the International Panel on Climate Change issued its most recent report on human-induced warming.
"The evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now and is a growing threat to society," the AAAS said at its annual meeting.
"Scientists are observing the rapid melting of glaciers, destabilization of major ice sheets, rising sea levels, shifts in species ranges and increased frequency of weather extremes," said John P. Holdren, director of the Woods Hole Research Center and AAAS president.
• Click here to visit FOXNews.com's Natural Science Center.
Concern focuses on carbon dioxide and other gases produced by burning fossil fuels and other processes. As these gases accumulate in the atmosphere they trap heat from the sun, much like a greenhouse, warming the climate.
"The longer we wait to tackle climate change, the harder and more expensive the task will be," the group said.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,252773,00.html#ixzz1j7NbnVQo


and then you have the opinions of the Republican ideologues.

 

[377OHMS]

Quote from futurecurrents:

Typical brain-dead denier response. They can't fight the science so they throw up red herrings. The fact of AGW is not dependent on my lifestyle. I'm surprised I haven't heard the name "AL Gore" more. That one always makes the rabid righty deniers start foaming at the mouth and makes further rational discussion impossible, if it was ever possible to begin with.

Al Gore the crazed sex poodle?

His response to the imminent global warming disaster he sells has been to buy a beachfront home that uses 12 times the energy as us mortals. Guess he isn't altogther worried about the nonsensical rising sea levels. Maybe he believes that Obama has healed the earth and tamed the oceans as per his campaign propaganda.

What do you want from us? To agree with you? Not going to happen.

Seems you just want to yammer and impress the gullible with your BS. If you aren't living a lifestyle designed to abate AGW you're just full of shit. We've already got plenty of yammerheads.

Again, what is it that you want here in P&R?

 

[futurecurrents]

There is an overwhelming level of scientific consensus on human-caused climate change. Over 95% of actively publishing climate scientists agree that the earth is warming and that human activity is the cause. In spite of this agreement, only about 50% the general public think that scientists have reached a consensus on human-caused climate change. Two sources of the discrepancy are the unbalanced portrayal of the situation in the media, and the Manufactured Doubt Industry.

Question #1: When compared with pre-1800s levels, do you think that mean global temperatures have generally risen, fallen, or remained relatively constant?

About 90% of all the scientists and 97% of the climate scientists said temperatures had risen.
Question #2: Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?

About 82% of all the scientists and 97% climate scientists agreed that human activity is a significant contributing factor.
The anonymous poll sought the opinion of the most complete list of earth scientists they could find, contacting more than 10,200 experts at universities and government labs around the world listed in the 2007 edition of the American Geological Institute's Directory of Geoscience Departments. The 2-minute, two-question poll had 3146 responses (30.7% of those polled). Approximately 90% of the scientists who responded were from the U.S., and about 90% held a Ph.D. degree. Of these scientists, 5% were climate scientists who published more than 50% of all their peer-reviewed publications in the past five years on the subject of climate change. The authors noted that the survey included participants with well-documented dissenting opinions on global warming theory. More results from this study, including responses from the general public, are shown below in Figure 1. (Read this study in full.)

http://www.wunderground.com/resources/climate/928.asp

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and then there is the guesses of some dudes who trade

 

[377OHMS]

Quote from futurecurrents:

There is an overwhelming level of scientific consensus on human-caused climate change.

Untrue.

The scienists were caught colluding to produce inaccurate results which have been subsequently refuted by the scientific community.

More contemporary results have been quite mixed, about what you would expect when stochastic processes are employed to look for a phenomena that does not exist.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from 377OHMS:

Al Gore the crazed sex poodle?

His response to the imminent global warming disaster he sells has been to buy a beachfront home that uses 12 times the energy as us mortals. Guess he isn't altogther worried about the nonsensical rising sea levels. Maybe he believes that Obama has healed the earth and tamed the oceans as per his campaign propaganda.

What do you want from us? To agree with you? Not going to happen.

Seems you just want to yammer and impress the gullible with your BS. If you aren't living a lifestyle designed to abate AGW you're just full of shit. We've already got plenty of yammerheads.

Again, what is it that you want here in P&R?

More brain-dead, half-baked untruths that the deniers like to parade out, blithely unaware that Gore's new home is not a beachfront home. And again, Al Gore's lifestyle, which is largely carbon neutral, has no bearing on the scientific reality of AGW. Just a red herring.

Curious are you also a bible literalist ? Creationist? Birther? 9/11 conspiracy believer? They seem to go together.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from 377OHMS:

Untrue.

The scienists were caught colluding to produce inaccurate results which have been subsequently refuted by the scientific community.



Wrong again moron.....

"Climategate" exposed: Conservative media distort stolen emails in latest attack on global warming consensus
December 01, 2009 7:20 am ET — 146 Comments
Since the reported theft of emails from the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia, conservative media figures have aggressively claimed that those emails undermine the overwhelming scientific consensus that human activities are causing climate change, dubbing the supposed scandal "Climategate." But these critics have largely rested their claims on outlandish distortions and misrepresentations of the contents of the stolen emails, greatly undermining their dubious smears.

Six official investigations have cleared scientists of accusations of wrongdoing.
A three-part Penn State University cleared scientist Michael Mann of wrongdoing.
Two reviews commissioned by the University of East Anglia"supported the honesty and integrity of scientists in the Climatic Research Unit."
A UK Parliament report concluded that the emails have no bearing on our understanding of climate science and that claims against UEA scientists are misleading.
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Inspector General's office concluded there was no evidence of wrongdoing on behalf of their employees.
The National Science Foundation's Inspector General's office concluded, "Lacking any direct evidence of research misconduct...we are closing this investigation with no further action."
Other agencies and media outlets have investigated the substance of the emails.

The Environmental Protection Agency, in response to petitions against action to curb heat-trapping emissions, dismissed attacks on the science rooted in the stolen emails.
Factcheck.org debunked claims that the emails put the conclusions of climate science into question.
Politifact.com rated claims that the emails falsify climate science as "false."
An Associated Press review of the emails found that they "don't undercut the vast body of evidence showing the world is warming because of man-made greenhouse gas emissions."


http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warmin...misinformation-stolen-emails-climategate.html

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by all means though stick to your brainwashed, deluded ignorance.

 

[pspr]

Quote from 377OHMS:

"He" might be a she. It is a very feminine trait to require drama in ones life.

If my GF can't find some drama in the events of the day she will usually create her own.

That didn't cross my mind, but now that you mention it, there is a stuborn trait coming from FC that I recognize. It's when you are right but you will have more peace and pleasure if you just let them think they won the argument.

My favorite response (which usually gets me in trouble) is "whatever".

 

[377OHMS]

Quote from futurecurrents:

More brain-dead, half-baked untruths that the deniers like to parade out, blithely unaware that Gore's new home is not a beachfront home. And again, Al Gore's lifestyle, which is largely carbon neutral, has no bearing on the scientific reality of AGW. Just a red herring.

Curious are you also a bible literalist ? Creationist? Birther? 9/11 conspiracy believer? They seem to go together.

The simple fact is that AGW does not exist.

Folks who might normally attach themselves to other crackpot cult beliefs will latch onto anything they can conceive that will allow them to force the rest of us to change our lifestyles to meet their expectations. The AGW crowd is similar to the Khmer Rouge in this regard. They cannot abide people living freely in a self-determined way.

If you won't alter your own lifestyle what do you expect others to do? If you want to wet your panties over something you believe there is nobody stopping you. You could paint up a sandwich board and stand around on the corner of Hollywood and Vine and shout "The End is Near" if you like. Its a free country, sort of.