State run energy policy works in Norway: $500 bn surplus

In a world dominated by big corporations and mantras of deregulation, the state run oil system in Norway has created a surplus savings account of $500 bn dollars, about $100,000 for each of Norway's 5 million people.

This could not have happened here, with big oil companies running the energy policies of the US.

How did they do this in Norway? It was ironically by the help of an Iraqi immigrant. Yes, an immigrant oil geologist that helped Norways towards energy and financial independence from big oil and foreign countries. Read on..

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/99680a04-92a0-11de-b63b-00144feabdc0.html


The Iraqi who saved Norway from oil

By Martin Sandbu

Published: August 29 2009 02:26 | Last updated: August 29 2009 02:26

When he boarded his flight from London to Oslo, Farouk al-Kasim, a young Iraqi geologist, knew his life would never again be the same. Norway was a country about as different as it was possible to imagine from his home, the Iraqi port city of Basra. He had no job to go to, and no idea of how he would make a living in the far north. It was May 1968 and al-Kasim had just resigned from his post at the Iraq Petroleum Company. To do so, he had had to come to the UK, where the consortium of western companies that still controlled most of his country’s oil production had its headquarters.

For all its uncertainties, al-Kasim’s journey to Norway had a clear purpose: he and his Norwegian wife, Solfrid, had decided that their youngest son, born with cerebral palsy, could only receive the care he needed there. But it meant turning their backs on a world of comforts. Al-Kasim’s successful career had afforded them the prosperous lifestyle of Basra’s upper-middle class. Now they would live with Solfrid’s family until he could find work, though he had little hope of finding a job as rewarding as the one he had left behind. He was not aware that oil exploration was under way on the Norwegian continental shelf, and even if he had known, it wouldn’t have been much cause for hope: after five years of searching, still no oil had been found.

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The extraction rates al-Kasim forced through significantly boosted oil and gas revenues – and so indirectly, the size of the savings fund. But the culture of pursuing the “last drop” brought greater benefits than just money pouring in. It spurred the development of technological expertise that has enabled Norwegian companies to compete with the best in the world. This, then, is a striking case of strong state regulation ultimately benefiting the private sector. “Norway is the only country in the world where the state and the capitalistic entities work together as partners, and the co-operation works, really works,” says al-Kasim. Paradoxically, state involvement makes this easier. “To put it very simply, you put your wallet where your mouth is … When you take 50 per cent of the risk, and other companies take maybe 15 per cent tops, it is hard for them to say you’re crazy, right?”

Today, al-Kasim is well known and liked within the older generation of Norway’s oil community (for whom his impromptu visit to the Ministry in May 1968 has entered the folklore). Beyond that limited circle, however, he is virtually unknown. The big newspapers have not profiled him; an internet search reveals little. I first learned of his story by coincidence, when a Norwegian development official mentioned him in an off-hand remark. The government has an ambitious aid programme (now called “Oil for Development”) to help poor, oil-rich states manage their natural resources. The official pointed out the irony in this, given that “it was an Iraqi guy who helped us set everything up in the first place. Without him we would just have let the American oil companies decide how to do things.” What a great story, I thought, almost too good to be true. But if it was true, how come so few people in Norway knew about it?
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I read that article, and then read some fool posting here (down in the ninth ring of ET hell) that no Ay-rab or Muslim was doing anything to help anyone, other than themselves, of course.
So you're running up against two ET verities: the state never does anything right, and neither do the Arabs and or the Muslims.
Good luck. You'll need it.
 
This is because the Noregians actually Allow for oil drilling.
Try obtaining a drillig permit in the USA these days, even Alaska.
The US congress will simply not allow it. Public or Private.
 
And out of no where we'll soon hear the ear splitting shrill noise of some neocon screaming socialism. Forgetting he's on welfare himself and living in a trailer.
 
'And out of no where we'll soon hear the ear splitting shrill noise of some neocon screaming socialism. Forgetting he's on welfare himself and living in a trailer.'


Well Said! CNN reports that US healthcare is more expensive than Canada and Germany by far and each single year government overspends by $1.5 Trillion.

That is the answer to all the financial woe's of the US. But the main problem is the Neocons, Republican Evils, Conservative Christian Morons etc. cry socialism and liberlism and other nonsense words and soon bring in 'national defense' logic and any good 'clean the sheets' type of program or initiative is outshouted and discarded.

Neocons brought the Iraq war on the US and they should be 'hanged to dry' on the lamp posts in DC, NY and LA. :D :cool: :p
 
Quote from toc:

'And out of no where we'll soon hear the ear splitting shrill noise of some neocon screaming socialism. Forgetting he's on welfare himself and living in a trailer.'


Well Said! CNN reports that US healthcare is more expensive than Canada and Germany by far and each single year government overspends by $1.5 Trillion.

That is the answer to all the financial woe's of the US. But the main problem is the Neocons, Republican Evils, Conservative Christian Morons etc. cry socialism and liberlism and other nonsense words and soon bring in 'national defense' logic and any good 'clean the sheets' type of program or initiative is outshouted and discarded.

Neocons brought the Iraq war on the US and they should be 'hanged to dry' on the lamp posts in DC, NY and LA. :D :cool: :p

toc

You forget that most neocons are NRA types with firearms
and plenty of ammo. They also know how to use them. Something to be mindful of as you try to hang them on streetposts. :D
 
Quote from toc:

'And out of no where we'll soon hear the ear splitting shrill noise of some neocon screaming socialism. Forgetting he's on welfare himself and living in a trailer.'


Well Said! CNN reports that US healthcare is more expensive than Canada and Germany by far and each single year government overspends by $1.5 Trillion.

That is the answer to all the financial woe's of the US. But the main problem is the Neocons, Republican Evils, Conservative Christian Morons etc. cry socialism and liberlism and other nonsense words and soon bring in 'national defense' logic and any good 'clean the sheets' type of program or initiative is outshouted and discarded.

Neocons brought the Iraq war on the US and they should be 'hanged to dry' on the lamp posts in DC, NY and LA. :D :cool: :p



Deep breath, ahhh. Feel better after the rant.
 
Quote from tmarket:

In a world dominated by big corporations and mantras of deregulation, the state run oil system in Norway has created a surplus savings account of $500 bn dollars, about $100,000 for each of Norway's 5 million people.

How did they do this in Norway? It was ironically by the help of an Iraqi immigrant. Yes, an immigrant oil geologist that helped Norways towards energy and financial independence from big oil and foreign countries. Read on..


Norway produces 2.5 million barrels of oil per day which is more than 10 times what it uses. What country couldnt get rich that way? If the US produced 10 times the amount of oil we use, dont you think we would have no deficit?
 
Quote from tmarket:

In a world dominated by big corporations and mantras of deregulation, the state run oil system in Norway has created a surplus savings account of $500 bn dollars, about $100,000 for each of Norway's 5 million people.

This could not have happened here, with big oil companies running the energy policies of the US.

How did they do this in Norway? It was ironically by the help of an Iraqi immigrant. Yes, an immigrant oil geologist that helped Norways towards energy and financial independence from big oil and foreign countries. Read on..

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/99680a04-92a0-11de-b63b-00144feabdc0.html

The article says "savings fund, which now totals some £240bn". At the current rate of $1.626/£ that is $390 billion, not $500 billion.

Please post links to all the articles on how many hundreds of billions of dollars the state run oil companies of Mexico and Venezuela have in their savings funds.

The oil companies in the USA have not done anything to stop the Federal Government or state governments from setting up savings funds funded with oil money. In 2008 just one oil company (Exxon Mobil) paid $34.5 billion in sales taxes, $41.7 billion in other taxes and $36.5 billion in income taxes.

Why don't you ask Federal and state governments what they do with the hundreds of billions of dollars they receive in oil company taxes every year. Over the last 20 years we are talking trillions of dollars. What did the Federal and state governments do with the trillions of dollars in tax revenues from the oil companies over the last 20 years? We all know that they did not save it. The one exception is Alaska, with the Alaska Permanent Fund having a $30 billion balance as of 06/30/2009.
 
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