Stanley Druckenmiller: The mother of all storms is coming

Observation:

The most heralded book on Booms and Busts, This Time is Different by Reinhart and Rogoff.

Copyright 2009

http://www.amazon.com/This-Time-Different-Centuries-Financial/dp/0691152640

.....is frequently referred to by those who correctly called busts and had it right not long before in spite of the mocking of them: Druckenmiller, Roubini, Schiller. Mauldin appears to be judicious in not joining them as ardently, but I read his End Game in 2011 shortly after it came out; he is another drawing on the book. Mauldin I inferred has a thin veil between him and these others.

End of observation


Opinion that works for me (not necessarily for anyone else):

I find it premature (not wrong, but early) to be deriding those guys unless one can be certain of the incredible deleveraging required by (1) current leaders effectively beginning the process now, and (2) subsequent leaders continuing the process effectively, and of course (3) citizens allowing an effective process. All three have to exist in order to dodge uncomfortable decline in standard of living. Decline in standard of living has been occurring in the last two decades in abolute terms. In relative terms, we have accomodated ourselves to it gradually like the frog swimming in increasing heated pot of water. Advancement in technology our savior ? .... If only these above described modalities come in to existence.

End of opinion


SAVIOR (with their respective consequences):
default
austerity
inflation
growth
combination of the above in some alchemy that is effective
other ?

Oh........ and let's have more babies. That should be fun.

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Yes........let's have babies.

Next to the fiscal black hole we are headed into, the worst next dimension for us is that which piles on to the debt crisis.....

(1) The millennials coming out of college without jobs for the last 4 years;

(2) The demographics that can't sustain the baby boomers' retirement, especially without reform. The millennials don't want babies in the quantities we need them, arguably since they can't add to household formation.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3722183#post3722183
 
Quote from deucy28:

Yes........let's have babies.

Next to the fiscal black hole we are headed into, the worst next dimension for us is that which piles on to the debt crisis.....

(1) The millennials coming out of college without jobs for the last 4 years;

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3722183#post3722183

This is going to be a real disaster, the longer they are out of work, the harder it is to get a job. There is a very good chance they might be permanently unemployed, their entire lives destroyed by this one economic depression.
 
Quote from Grandluxe:

This is going to be a real disaster, the longer they [the millennials] are out of work, the harder it is to get a job. There is a very good chance they might be permanently unemployed, their entire lives destroyed by this one economic depression.

Possibilities for the millennials (generation Y)........

(1) The probability they will find some work in the near future is high, in my opinion, even if "underemployed" for their education.

(2) The probability becomes better over time as attrition of the senior employed occurs. After all, it is the baby boom generation in the lead years of the boom that are in their mid- 60's now, and many will not chose to work in their later 60's and early 70's window of age.

(3) They can remain current by taking occasional studies in their work interest. As society needs them in the next 5 to 10 years, refresher courses in college and vocational schools will become available.

Regardless, between them and the baby boomers, Social Security and Medicare are on quick sand. Immigration anyone ?
 
If public sector workers' salaries were tied not to inflation but to the national debt then the public sector bureaucrats would have to try harder.
As for medicaid etc. ? Scrap them, they are too expensive.
Politicians - tie their salaries to the national debt too.
Half the military
Legalize drugs and scrap drug control
etc.

Could they do it ? Probably not . The bums would still be arguing the toss when it all collapses.

So get some blood thirsty foreigner in to kick a lot of butts imho
scrap democracy - nice idea but the end result is awful.

a US problem. Good luck guys.
 
Quote from Fractals 'R Us:

"... Bloomberg said not to worry because we "have unlimited money".


If that were true, why would we have Federal Income Tax at all?? (See Weimar Republic, 1919.)
 
we must go higher then.

Quote from Grandluxe:

The Washington Times Friday, March 1, 2013

Entitlement spending is driving the nation into deeper economic despair than most realize, said hedge fund guru Stanley Druckenmiller.

“I see a storm coming, maybe bigger than the storm we had in 2008, 2010,” Mr. Druckenmiller told Bloomberg TV.
The cost of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid poses much more danger than the oft-debated sequester and will eventually bankrupt the nation, he said. The trio’s unfunded liabilities have already reached $211 trillion, some estimates say.

His statements come as economists are reporting incomes for U.S. households are falling.


Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...uckenmiller-i-see-storm-coming/#ixzz2MJbOjLHP
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter
 
Quote from Humpy:

Don't you mean Emmigration ? But to where ? The moon ?

No, I definitely mean immigration.

It has been a current events topic for the last year. Currently, newly proposed legislation being hotly worked on in Congress and in the news weekly about its progress ("path to legal citizenship" for undocumented Mexicans).

The need to keep scholars we educated from foreign countries to remain in the U.S. rather than failing to facilitate their immigration here.

Divisive and arguable issues. But at its root (don't overlook as one of the drivers) is finding ways to prop up S.S. and Medicare that the Senate majority and President refuse to do.
 
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