Stalin Man of Steel

[Bakinec]

Quote from jficquette:

Your ignorant about Stalin. He didn't care about Russia. He was not even Russian. It was a cult of personality. Nothing mattered but Stalin's absolute control.

He did make Russia the most powerful it's ever been in its history, let's not dispute that.

And he did raise a glass of wine in toast to Russians and their bravery.

That is not the point.

The point is the PRICE at which he achieved Russia's (and his own) power.

It's funny to see lefties here claiming that millions of innocent lives lost don't matter as much just because they were't a target of racial prejudice.

And Hitler would never have been in power had it not been for the Communist activities in Europe and the revolution in Russia.

In order to rise to power, preaching about Versailles and inciting German nationalism won't get you anywhere. You need finances. And Hitler's financiers couldn't give a flying fuck about Versailles and German nationalism, all they cared about was someone to keep the commies away.

 

[jficquette]

There are 5 parts of this on You Tube. Here is part one.

Ishop. Please pay attention.


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[insider trading]

Quote from Kassz007:

I can't believe you're defending Stalin based on these grounds...

Hitler believed the Jews were his enemies and he was killing them for self preservation...does that make it OK as well?

Killing millions of innocent people is killing millions of innocent people, no matter what your motive is, it's still sick.

Stalin was in a constant political power struggle with numerous people trying to overthrow and kill him.Jews were no threat to dethrone Hitler when he started murdering them.The countries Hitler attacked were no threat to Hitlers power

 

[jficquette]

Quote from Gubinec:

He did make Russia the most powerful it's ever been in its history, let's not dispute that.

And he did raise a glass of wine in toast to Russians and their bravery.

That is not the point.

The point is the PRICE at which he achieved Russia's (and his own) power.

It's funny to see lefties here claiming that millions of innocent lives lost don't matter as much just because they were't a target of racial prejudice.

Russia's power was based on the Military. Everything else in his country was third world.

 

[Bakinec]

Quote from jficquette:

Russia's power was based on the Military. Everything else in his country was third world.

You're obviously just as ignorant as your opponents here if you think that.

Before his rise, most of Russians were illiterate serfs.

I don't think you knew that, did you?

Who you think gave the Chinese their schools and education?

Soviet education was the best in the world, bar none!

They went in 5th grade what your dumbass Americans go through in high school (and still don't learn).

 

[insider trading]

Quote from jficquette:

Russia's power was based on the Military. Everything else in his country was third world.

You are clueless. Industrialization,the economy ,education and science grew tremendously under Stalin

 

[IShopAtPublix]

Quote from jficquette:

There are 5 parts of this on You Tube. Here is part one.

Ishop. Please pay attention.


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You are so inferior in your thinking it is not even funny. It is not possible to bring a country from complete backwardness and into world great power status in 17 years without some "strong measures". A lot of people got killed, but that time was dangerous. If you think Russia could have been modernized using jeffersonian democracy, you are delusional.

The mentality of russian people is based on living in a country with boundless borders and enemies everywhere. Naturally this kind of condition leads to autocratic mentality, the desire for a "strong hand" to protect people from enemies. Modern obsession with putin can also be explained by this phenomenon.

Russia got invaded great many times, mongols set back that country by CENTURIES.

Stalin was exactly the leader Russia needed at that DANGEROUS time.

 

[Lucrum]

"As far as Russia is concerned, he was the worst thing that could have happened to them."

Quote from insider trading:

No he's not.Russia became the second most powerful country in the world in a very short time because of him

"In February 1956 Nikita Khrushchev, then first secretary of the Soviet Communist party, addressed the 20th Soviet Communist Party Congress in secret session. He devoted three hours to the systematic destruction of Joseph Stalin's image as a public hero."
http://history-world.org/stalin1.htm

 

[Bakinec]

Stalin was the kind of leader needed after the Commies had created chaos in Russia, I agree, but it were the same Commies who inspired the rise of Nazism in the west.

The most important and powerful cause and factor that set in motion most of the terrible events of the 20th century were the Communist uprisings and their final revolution in Russia.

Had there been no Commies, had Nicholas stayed at the throne, there would be no Hitler, and there would be no WWII.

 

[insider trading]

Quote from IShopAtPublix:

You are so inferior in your thinking it is not even funny. It is not possible to bring a country from complete backwardness and into world great power status in 17 years without some "strong measures". A lot of people got killed, but that time was dangerous. If you think Russia could have been modernized using jeffersonian democracy, you are delusional.

The mentality of russian people is based on living in a country with boundless borders and enemies everywhere. Naturally this kind of condition leads to autocratic mentality, the desire for a "strong hand" to protect people from enemies. Modern obsession with putin can also be explained by this phenomenon.

Russia got invaded great many times, mongols set back that country by CENTURIES.

Stalin was exactly the leader Russia needed at that DANGEROUS time.

I guess they think that you can go from being a weak nation not being able to beat a small country like Japan to becoming the second most powerful country in the world with a nuclear bomb without tough and extreme measures