Stalin Man of Steel

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Here is something you may not know. During WWII Germans captured Stalin's son and wanted to trade him for a general (stalin's son was a private or a low ranking soldier not an officer or senior officer), Stalin said "we don't trade privates for generals" End result, Stalin's son got executed by the germans. Talk about country first. Do you think Dubya in a similar situation would do something like that?

This is a totally different matter.

I do not dispute that Stalin was one of the very few incorruptible leaders in history.

His steely nature showed up even in his treatment of his son. That doesn't excuse his murder campaigns.
 
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Here is something you may not know. During WWII Germans captured Stalin's son and wanted to trade him for a general (stalin's son was a private or a low ranking soldier not an officer or senior officer), Stalin said "we don't trade privates for generals" End result, Stalin's son got executed by the germans. Talk about country first. Do you think Dubya in a similar situation would do something like that?

Your ignorant about Stalin. He didn't care about Russia. He was not even Russian. It was a cult of personality. Nothing mattered but Stalin's absolute control.

His wife committed his sucide after she discovered some of his heinous acts.

He let his son die because it suited him. Its all covered in the show.

Just keep your head up your ass.
 
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No, it's you who don't have the intellect and sophistication to see that had it not been for the Communist rise in Russia, Hitler would never have risen to power in the first place.

Where the f*ck you think his support sprung up from? Who you think financed him? It's all the businesses and corporations that felt threatened by the leftist uprisings in Russia that started spilled into the rest of Europe, including Germany.

Otherwise, Hitler would NEVER have risen half as far as he did and never gotten the support he had gotten from the big money and the public.

I'm from Caucasus myself and basically closer to Stalin in terms of culture and genetics so I don't have any axe grind against him other than for his constant repressions and murder campaigns. What do you call sending half of North Caucasian ethnicities and all the Cossacks into labor camps in Kazakhstan and Siberia??

Fuck outta here.


Also, Russia was not backward. Nicholas was putting through a lot of reforms so overturning his rule by the Commies was one of the biggest mistakes and sins of history in mankind.

You don't know shit. Russia was backward and got crushed in WWI. Under Stalin - Victory. see the difference? Nicholas II was an incompetent leader, that is why Russia got beaten in Russo-Japanese war of 1905 and that is why there was a "revolution of 1905". OWNED.

Hitler sprung up because of Versailles. He harvested German nationalism.
 
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Your ignorant about Stalin. He didn't care about Russia. He was not even Russian. It was a cult of personality. Nothing mattered but Stalin's absolute control.

His wife committed his sucide after she discovered some of his heinous acts.

He let his son die because it suited him. Its all covered in the show.

Just keep your head up your ass.

Why can't you get it through your thick head, you don't know shit and can't lecture me on anything. yes I know he was not Russian, he was Dzhugashvili a Georgian (we are talking modern Republic of Georgia not US State of Georgia) Just as lenin was Ulyanov and was of jewish descent. Get lost.

I am going to take a history channel production as truth? I have a lot of other sources to rely on. Under Stalin USSR got to be a super power.
 
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Hitler sprung up because of Versailles. He harvested German nationalism.

lol goes to show e'thing you know comes from book and you don't know shit about how real life politics work.
 
Quote from IShopAtPublix:

Why can't you get it through your thick head, you don't know shit and can't lecture me on anything. yes I know he was not Russian, he was Dzhugashvili a Georgian (we are talking modern Republic of Georgia not US State of Georgia) Just as lenin was Ulyanov and was of jewish descent. Get lost.

I am going to take a history channel production as truth? I have a lot of other sources to rely on. Under Stalin USSR got to be a super power.

Would you like to have lived under Stalin's rule in Russia?

Lenin was of many ethnicities, Jewish was just one of them.
 
Quote from jficquette:

Your ignorant about Stalin. He didn't care about Russia. He was not even Russian. It was a cult of personality. Nothing mattered but Stalin's absolute control.

His wife committed his sucide after she discovered some of his heinous acts.

He let his son die because it suited him. Its all covered in the show.

Just keep your head up your ass.

You are clueless
 
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People of the gulag camps were perceived as Enemies of Stalin and Russia and criminals.There is a difference between killing your enemies and criminals and killing millions of Jews and killing millions of others by attacking other countries

I am not saying that Stalin was right or that I agree with him,but there is a difference between killing for self preservation for him and his country then just killing for no logical reason

I can't believe you're defending Stalin based on these grounds...

Hitler believed the Jews were his enemies and he was killing them for self preservation...does that make it OK as well?

Killing millions of innocent people is killing millions of innocent people, no matter what your motive is, it's still sick.
 
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Why can't you get it through your thick head, you don't know shit and can't lecture me on anything. yes I know he was not Russian, he was Dzhugashvili a Georgian (we are talking modern Republic of Georgia not US State of Georgia) Just as lenin was Ulyanov and was of jewish descent. Get lost.

I am going to take a history channel production as truth? I have a lot of other sources to rely on. Under Stalin USSR got to be a super power.

What's your sources?? Rense.com? DailyKos? Moveon.org? lol.
 
Quote from IShopAtPublix:

You don't know shit. Russia was backward and got crushed in WWI. Under Stalin - Victory. see the difference? Nicholas II was an incompetent leader, that is why Russia got beaten in Russo-Japanese war of 1905 and that is why there was a "revolution of 1905". OWNED.

Hitler sprung up because of Versailles. He harvested German nationalism.

Obliviously a lot of people here don't know shit about history
 
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