Spydertrader's Jack Hershey Futures Trading Journal

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Quote from Spydertrader:

I made it crystal clear as to what you needed to understand. Now, you either have a high intellect, or you do not. Since we have (on several occasions) watched as you pointed out examples of your esteemed brain power, what conclusion should one draw from the fact that you appear now unable to focus on the quoted text provided in my post? Here it is again ...



Now, knock off the bullshit.



You've been told numerous times about the errors you make. Rather than accept the input, you launch directly into a 500 word response attacking the material and the professor. Your behavior exemplifies an individual who needs to be right. Fine. You are right. Happy now?



What don't you understand? That other people don't blame the material? That Mak posted several years ago, what one needed to do? That you often fail to recall key components articulated numerous times only to then later blame me for posting innocuous responses? That many people have continually requested you post charts with your questions, yet you fail to do so?

Come on now. Enough of the charade.

- Spydertrader

It's very, very easy to make a bunch of ungrounded (lacking evidence) statements. Pretend all you want that this is a charade. It's not to me and others. It's also very easy to take things a person sayes out of context. You've done a stellar job of this.

You keep saying that I attack the material and the professor. Well, if you want to call what I do attacking, I guess we don't agree on the meaning of the word.

When I find contradiction and offer up proof, is that attacking?

When I point out broken promises, is that attacking?

When I carefully analyze what has been stated as fact and find areas that are not clear, is that attacking?

I don't know specifically what you are referring to (because you almost never are specific) when you point out that I claim to have great intellect. I believe I have above average intellect. I also pointed out at some time that you perceived that to be the case also. And, most importantly, somewhere in the past weeks I pointed out that having a high degree of intellect was of no use in trading, possibly even a hindrance.

If you have a problem with me personally, it seems the rational thing to do is take the matter up directly with me. You have my phone number and my email address. You seem absolutely convinced that I'm doing this to derail this thread and not much I say will change that I suppose.

I am strong willed, and come off a bit high and might at times. For that I apologize to all. Yet, Spyder, you can't see that you come off the very same way, more often than you might ever imagine.

I gave up trying to convince you that much better, productive ways exist to teach this group. I came back, after a few days away, for a fresh start. I quietly posted three questions. And the flurry that ensued DID NOT START WITH ME!

If a student keeps asking what appears to be the same questions over and over, and all the teacher can do is say it's the students problem (or something akin to that), I question whether a teacher even exists in the equation. Information dispensor yes. Teacher, no.
 
Quote from bundlemaker:

1) Does increasing volume on inside of lateral (bar to bar at close of bar) mean anything other than buyers and sellers in a battle which resulted in a draw? Can anything resembling change be gleaned from such a bar? My best guess is that this is continuation.

2)If lateral formation breaks out on increasing volume (over prior bar) in a direction which is non-dominant, does that mean somewhere in the lateral was the FTT of the forest? In other words, at a fairly coarse level, this inc prv b/o from the lateral represents a change signal if one missed the FTT?

Concrete example:

Let’s say I’m trading ‘ftt to ftt’ forest level. I’m currently long in an up channel forest.
I’m looking for ftt (already had a flaw and/or a VE) and what I now observe and annotate is a lateral formation. If price b/o’s from the lateral formation on increasing volume over prior bar to the DOWN SIDE, is this a signal for change? Ie if I were looking for an FTT, missed it somehow (or maybe occurred within the lateral) and saw this just described b/o, is this the place to reverse? Or enter is I hadn’t been long and looking for a forest level entry?

3) It seems like during a lateral, the usual decreasing volume, should not play a part in what the dominant Gaussian looks like. IOW- when drawing in a dominant Gaussian which is a forest level traverse, the decreasing lateral volume is ignored when a lateral formation exists as part of the dominant traverse. Do I have this correct?

Your questions make my head hurt. Not because they aren't genuine, but because you wonder about such detailed things that I would never have worried about. I know you are trying to go back to the basics to get the fundamentals down and all but you may be making things more complicated than they need to be!

The difference between you and me is you focus on what you DON'T get and try to stuff it in a box. I focus on what I DO get and allow that to grow over time. Develop and hone that which you do know, and that which you don't know will slowly diminish.

To answer your question though, if you missed the FTT and you now are getting increasing red, who cares about the FTT? You have increasing red. Isn't the FTT kind of irrelevant to the present moment's profit potential?
 
Quote from bundlemaker:

In the mean time, please review the 3 bar by bar sequences in this graphic. For each pair of bars, all I'm asking is which constitutes change and which continuation.

If you are "going back to the basics," why worry about this stuff? FWIW, I look at the image/quiz you posted and all I can think is "who cares if these obscure two bar snippets with no context are cont/chg?" I mean, are we in dry up here or are these all extreme volume bars? Where in the channel are we? Is this anything close to an "action point" for the resolution you are monitoring?

I mean, depending on a ton of things, these could be bars I just mentally throw out or they could be FTTs etc. You might be trying to apply a hard/fast rule to something that might be a very situational thing that demands contextual understanding.
 
Quote from Moz:

Looks like it is just a Microsoft Word document Guava, and the website reference works fine all by itself.

:cool:
Sometimes ET truncates file names so as not to include the file extension. This happens on practically every document that JH posts because he includes spaces in his titles, which ET can't handle. All you have to do if this happens is give the document a .doc extension after you download it and it should open just fine in Word.
 
Additional Signals for Change

As we once again return to our regularly scheduled programming, we find ourselves now focusing on the differences which exist between continuation and change. For everyone following along, these differences exist irrespective of resolution level (Forest, Tree, Limb, etc). However, whether or not these differences apply to the trader, results from the specific resolution level traded. By example, one signal for change (an FTT) may not apply to a Forest Level Trader who looks specifically for RTL changes. This does not mean the FTT did not exist. It simply means this particular type of trader seeks only a breach of the RTL to initiate their exit.

In other words, we will discuss several 'signals for change' in the subsequent paragraphs, but they might not apply to all traders. However, what everyone can do is attempt to understand these various signals in an effort to add clarity to their own monitoring process. The more areas which appear 'clear' on the charts throughout the day, the greater the comfort level for each individual trader.

Left Trend Line Bounce

On occasion, Price head straight up to the Left Trend Line and either creates a Volatility Expansion before heading back to the Right Trend Line, or, Price bounces right back into the channel. In either case, we occasionally never see an FTT form. (See Attached) As a result, some traders often wonder how they can know change had taken place.

<img src=http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=1626219>

The answer appears most often on the YM Chart. To anticipate this type of change, we begin to watch the YM as ES Price approaches the left Trend Line. For this reason, we always want to make sure we annotate the YM Chart first. Doing so insures the fact that, when we need the information from the YM, we have already laid the ground work for quickly obtaining the required information. One simply needs to 'see' a signal for change on the YM in order to anticipate the lagging change on the ES. The same skill set used to distinguish change on the ES applies directly to the YM. What is more, we can use this change signal from the YM as our trigger to initiate a reverse (or entry0 on the ES.

Flaws and Formations

While we do not often see a Left Trend Line Bounce carry through to a BO of the current channel (although it does happen now and then), we can now 'see' this phenomenon as a signal for change. With both an FTT and a LTL Bounce, we have both directional and Pace changes taking place.

Flaws and Formations also provide signals for change. Although these changes do not last nearly as long as an FTT or a LTL bounce, Flaws do provide short term changes in both direction and pace. With formations, we can have either Direction and Pace changes, or simply Pace changes. Either we, this temporary interruption in Money Velocity does often provide opportunity.

Flaws themselves result from temporary changes in Market Sentiment. As such, one can (First by accident; then by design) trade through these 'signals for change' under certain circumstances.

1. Appropriate Volatility must exist within the market itself.

2. The trader must have a working knowledge of the tool set required.

3. The trader must be trading successfully on the required resolution level.

While STR / SQU does often signal 'change' during times of trading through flaws, both the DOM and OTR Charts provide much more laser-like information with respect to where one needs to "carve the turns" while trading through flaws. As a result, I recommend applying one's focus to the broader picture unless one has developed the required skills mentioned above. Trading through an HVS provides loads of profit when done correctly. However, doing so provides an equal amount of frustration and loss when performed incorrectly- or at the inappropriate time.

Formations, on the other hand, provide an excellent opportunity for traders of all skill levels to profit. With formations, we see the market 'pause' momentarily to allow all traders to remain on the 'right side of the market.' Again, using YM as a trigger for change combined with PRV provides a very powerful 'one, two punch' for knowing when to enter, reverse or hold after a formation. In addition, Lateral formations provide multiple opportunities for trading off DOM walls, back and forth, within a very specific range. Pennants require no additional input - other than ES PRV and YM. While the formations do not always provide directional change, they do provide an opportunity for the trader to gather their thoughts, regroup if necessary and place themselves back on the right side of the market. For this reason, formations hold a very influential place with the methodology discussed here.

RTL Changes

We all look for the BO of an RTL on increasing Volume as a confirmation or signal for change. However, additional changes along the RTL also represent other types of change. These changes may or may not provide directional change (depending on one's resolution level).

An FBO provides a signal for change. For those trading at finer resolutions, the FBO provides a signal for reversing. Other traders see the FBO as simply a reason to hold. Both viewpoints work depending on how far down the rabbit hole one trades. In addition, a breach of an RTL on decreasing volume also provides a signal for change. Although not directional in nature, this signal for change indicates slowing pace in the market. Slowing pace can often mean increased risk - especially when combined with Time of Day. Again, the YM provides clues to these phenomenon - often well in advance of anything materializing on the ES.

I'll try to post more in the coming days with respect to increased details on these topics, but hopefully, I've provided enough examples to get people started.

Good trading all.

- Spydertrader
 
My brain is still trying to compute exactly what a bounce really "is."

Is this merely a phenomenon caused by our looking at the market through our specific 5 minute window?

For example, that bar you call a bounce... If the first bar of the day started at 9:32 and ended at 9:37, staggering the bars differently than usual, I would imagine that you might actually see an FTT occur on that bar that was previously a bounce. In otherwords, is an LTL bounce really an intra-bar FTT?

Am I making sense? Did I just blow your mind?
 
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