Spydertrader Help me with my journal

Quote from cd23:

You ARE wasting your life with SCT and now ET.

Give the people you are concerned about some help that they can make use of. Tell them where to go to get quality help.

WRONG Hershey boy

I have a method of trading that makes real money, but the reason I am so pissed off is because I remember how hard it was for me to make it in this biz

and when I see a guy like you, just destroying young traders and sending them into depression,

I see that as very very immoral

and no I don't want to disclose my method because my method is real unlike SCT

and same answer to your swordy
 
Its also very very immoral for you, to claim to CARE and WORRY so much for noobs, to not help them out by teaching them your methods.

You are like a man with a giant bucket of food walking around Somalia and lamenting the skinny and impoverished people only to refuse to give them any of your food.

Hypocrite! :mad:

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WRONG Hershey boy

I have a method of trading that makes real money, but the reason I am so pissed off is because I remember how hard it was for me to make it in this biz

and when I see a guy like you, just destroying young traders and sending them into depression,

I see that as very very immoral

and no I don't want to disclose my method because my method is real unlike SCT

and same answer to your swordy
 
Quote from The Swordsman:

Its also very very immoral for you, to claim to CARE and WORRY so much for noobs, to not help them out by teaching them your methods.

You are like a man with a giant bucket of food walking around Somalia and lamenting the skinny and impoverished people only to refuse to give them any of your food.

Hypocrite! :mad:


I can't give it for free because I am not 100% sure what will happen with mass usage (my edge is not trend based and can not be shared)

one person or two is fine and I suppose I could pick two and teach them but mass production NO WAY

if you expect me to give it away you don't know anything about trading

you must be so deep in SCT and believing Jack that everything should be released

man I tell you seriously, if you want to make it one day as a trader, you better smarten up and don't let Jack kill your soul
 
Go ahead then, find 2 traders here you deem worthy of learning and teach them (and no I do not want to be in the running, I am already profitable). Keep a journal on ET and have those 2 guys post their progress (not your secrets and method). Let ET see two guys, go from nothing to something. Give something back if you are so concerned about noobs.

I can understand your concerns about mass usage and I respect it. But you obviously do not trade the ES because no way you will affect that beast. You must be a YM or ER2 guy. I'm guessing YM.

And let me drop some knowledge on you, SCT is NOT what Spydertrader created a whole journal to teach. SCT is NOT what traders have been learning. SCT is a CONSEQUENCE of a very advanced level of skill at applying the price and volume relationship. The "method" involves understanding context and using that PV relationship to take advantage of the natural tendencies shown each and everday by liquid markets such as the ES.

Do I trade SCT (always in, either long or short), no I do not. Do I use the knowledge that Spydertrader shared and applied it to find the best possible long and short points everyday, You betcha. Did it take a lot of work to learn and apply; yes it did. Am I happy I undertook the challened; I'm thrilled to have done so.

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I can't give it for free because I am not 100% sure what will happen with mass usage (my edge is not trend based and can not be shared)

one person or two is fine and I suppose I could pick two and teach them but mass production NO WAY

if you expect me to give it away you don't know anything about trading

you must be so deep in SCT and believing Jack that everything should be released

man I tell you seriously, if you want to make it one day as a trader, you better smarten up and don't let Jack kill your soul
 
that's bull shit man

you are lying to yourself, I looked into Price volume relation and found it to be present but completely inconsequential

I trade without analyzing volume, I only look at volume in terms of, can it handle my order without slip

So even if jacks Price Volume idea is sound, its completely unecessary

there you go swordy you wanted a free lesson

I just gave it to you
 
lying to myself? You just do not know how to apply it in the PROPER CONTEXT. Context is key, not crude volume #'s. Its a comprehensive application of the relationship given a context that one must understand how to define. You do not know how to define it, so I understand why it seemed inconsequential to you.



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that's bull shit man

you are lying to yourself, I looked into Price volume relation and found it to be present but completely inconsequential

I trade without analyzing volume, I only look at volume in terms of, can it handle my order without slip

So even if jacks Price Volume idea is sound, its completely unecessary

there you go swordy you wanted a free lesson

I just gave it to you
 
Quote from The Swordsman:

lying to myself? You just do not know how to apply it in the PROPER CONTEXT. Context is key, not crude volume #'s. Its a comprehensive application of the relationship given a context that one must understand how to define. You do not know how to define it, so I understand why it seemed inconsequential to you.

you have more free time on ET so you win

now post one more time and be the last to post and we can forget Jack for a week

but no promises for next week :p
 
You are too quick to judge that which you don't fully know. I am sure others would be quick to judge your method if they saw it, even though THEY would have no clue how to apply it and therefore, not worthy of an opinion in the first place. Same thing here. The fact that you think SCT is what people are learning means you havent been following along.

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you have more free time on ET so you win

now post one more time and be the last to post and we can forget Jack for a week

but no promises for next week :p
 
I see you avoided my suggestion to help out a couple traders with your method, you know give something back. This way your conscience will be clear and you wont lose sleep at night over the noobs getting fleeced by people you have no respect for.

So what do you say original, do you plan on taking action and helping a few noobs out on this site?

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I can't give it for free because I am not 100% sure what will happen with mass usage (my edge is not trend based and can not be shared)

one person or two is fine and I suppose I could pick two and teach them but mass production NO WAY

 
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WRONG Hershey boy

I have a method of trading that makes real money, but the reason I am so pissed off is because I remember how hard it was for me to make it in this biz

I have heard that it is difficult for some individuals to make it as pros or amateurs. Being pissed off about it must have some basis. Going down a blind alley is what you mostly comment upon and it seems that you associate this with me. So I am responsible for your being in a pissed off state. I like that because people can put themselves in your place and say that if they can't learn something it is the fault of what they failed to learn. Then they can be pissed off at me too.

Learning to fail is the most common thing in all of trading. I can see your continuing fears as well. You found an edge, you tell us and you are keeping it secret, too. You must be in the markets a fairly small percentage of the time they are open.

I could never find any edges; I had to discover them from others who provided them to the public. It is coincidence that I am trading when they are traded; it is a nice consolation intellectually speaking.

It was a big deal for me to leave entry/exit trading behind. I do trade equities long only so entry/exit is still there. It is realy something to not think in terms of edges and, instead, think in terms of being a partner with the markets. It is not something that there is anything to be pissed off about when a trader is partnering with the markets. Sounds like you are "beating the market" or something.


and when I see a guy like you, just destroying young traders and sending them into depression,

There is no doubt that you are seeing this happening. I don't see it at all. I think I would have to be there to see it if I ever would see it. These people you are seeing destroyed and in depression, do you know them well enough to know what meds they are on or how they are being rehabilitated? I'm sure they aren't trading any more for obvious reasons. How did you avoid this as you were failing to learn the journals and not asking Q's? What did you do to escape being destroyed and to avoid depression?

I see that as very very immoral

I see a lot of traders blowing out, too. I notice it mostly on the T&S small contract level mostly when there is cascading in one direction after another on high volatility days. 27 FEB was a particularly exciting one. I know you feel that morality (the very very immoral level) is at a fever pitch during cascading and it is destroying and depressing young traders (other ages, too, perhaps but your sole focus is on someone your age). Morality, it seems, comes down to the lesson called "being on the right side of the market" for starters. Have you ever seen an edge that has "being on the right side of the market built into it? Yes, of course. All such edges are really moral. Trading seamlessly and continually is not something that can be used by anyone because their using it successfully is a result of my being very very immoral. Since a person is in the market while doing this, it probably would be tough for me to say anything that would a person in the market.

and no I don't want to disclose my method because my method is real unlike SCT

I agree with you. In my post I suggested that you tell people where to go to get help and, by that I certainly meant for you to keep secret what you think you are doing to make money. As someone who has had very different experiences than you, I do not recommend that you divulge anything to anyone. I agree with you that if more than two people were doing what you do it would stop working for you and it would not begin to work for them. Check out thunderdog, he canot see SCT working because he thoroughly monitors the T&S and it has never been showing there, ever. Too bad he missed it on 27 FEB.

and same answer to your swordy

How does being pissed off enhance your trading? Is it just the inspiration factor?
 
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