SPX Credit Spread Trader

...and there was me thinking MACD was somewhere to get a Big Mac and fries.

Next you're going to tell me that RSI is not something you get when you type with bad form.

Momoney.


Quote from chrdso:

I do look at the MACD for trend and momentum analysis.

For bullish signals:
1) Look for MACD line (difference between a 12 and 26 exponential moving average) crossing above the signal line (9 day exponential moving average of the MACD. For shorter time frames I think you use the 8-17-9 MACD.)

This kind of crossover occurs often and you have to combine with other indicators to prevent being whipsawed.

2) MACD line crosses over the center line (This means that the 12 day MA is above the 26 day MA) - uptrend.

This is what I saw happen on the XEO recently (in addition to the MACD crossing over signal line). So, I bought the Dec. 580 calls, which have doubled since. I also closed my Nov xeo bear call spread (for a loss. but, overall small credit because of the IC). I bought back for1.60, that spread is now 3.30. So, I would have lost if I held on.

3) Divergence - When the MACD has higher lows, but the price of the index is still falling. This happens less often, but is more reliable and indicates a trend change.

The MACD (2 lines) is a lagging indicator. So, you will not catch the start of a trend. If you use the MACD histogram (difference between the MACD and signal line - I think), you can catch a crossover (histogram above center line ) before it happens. 1) bars getting shorter 2) A divergence between histogram and MACD line (i.e. MACD line falling, but histogram bars becoming shorter- indicates a change in trend).

Also, the higher (longer) the bars the greater the momentum.


Coach (anyone), what technical indicators do you use? How do you use fib. lines?
 
Okay, Phil has taken off his bear put spread so it must be time to short the market lol.

Facetious mood today, sorry.

Momoney.

Quote from optioncoach:

Too much strength in the market as SPX pushes higher so I am closing my 1230 bear put spread since the pulback of resistance is not materializing. My 1275 short strikes in my puts is about 35 points away so with 30 days remaining to expiration I may look into some partial hedges since once we pass 1245, the last great support and a new high in years, more movement higher is very likely. I still see 1260 as a general target but not sure of the time frame exactly. BUt we could see 1260 by DEC expiration if this push continues...
 
Don't kid, that is exactly what is going to happen....give it an hour or so and it will crash lol...

Quote from momoneythansens:

Okay, Phil has taken off his bear put spread so it must be time to short the market lol.

Facetious mood today, sorry.

Momoney.
 
Quote from optioncoach:

Don't kid, that is exactly what is going to happen....give it an hour or so and it will crash lol...

Looks like its starting to reverse...:p
 
Problem is I wanted a pullback to give me some breathing room on my call spreads and I knew the market would not move back lower as long as I had a directional bet on that wanted the market to go lower. SO the best way to get the market to start falling was to take off my bear put spread ;)

Quote from rjg96:

Looks like its starting to reverse...:p
 
I've been watching my two shorts..1220 put side and 1245 call side and its been interesting to see them back and forth...IV and probability...I like the last two days but know there will be at least one strong day...up? down? (tomorrow?) my crystal ball is cloudy...what does MACD say?????


Quote from optioncoach:

Problem is I wanted a pullback to give me some breathing room on my call spreads and I knew the market would not move back lower as long as I had a directional bet on that wanted the market to go lower. SO the best way to get the market to start falling was to take off my bear put spread ;)
 
Does anyone trade this way?

With SPX=1230 do the following:
- buy a put fly 1210/1220/1230 for $1.85
- buy a call fly 1240/1250/1260 for $1.05

and play the swings that are almost gauranteed to come up in the next few days/weeks.... haven't tried this but I think there is a technique along these lines that advanced traders use... any insight would be appreciated!
 
SPX is pulling back today. If tomorrow's PPI causes a further drop I'll put on my main DEC put spread and use 15% of the credit to buy a 1250/1260 bull call spread for around $2.50.
 
F@#$in SPX.... nothing worse than being right but taking your trade off too soon and not giving it time to do what you intended it to do.... LOL

Quote from momoneythansens:

That's genuinely classic.
 
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