SPX Credit Spread Trader

Quote from rallymode:

So that you are short downside gamma i would think. Easier to manage the short leg and stay close to neutrality vs had you sold it OTM where any vega gains will not be enough to offset your -gammas, especially true on the call side. I'd be surprised if anyone is making money on long call diagonals(short strike first) the last 2 months.
How easier to manage short leg?

If crash through short strike will end up further on left side of put calendar(loss) on atm than otm. I am referring to P/L diagram.

Got to plug all this into option simulator. I miss my old TOS acct from 2 yrs ago. Still got that stupid monkey somewhere. Can't find similar function on IB. Need to either open small acct at TOS or get some software. Just don't feel like forking over 3K+ to OptionVue. Might need to ask the monkey.
 
I'm in the same boat. Have an IB acct, no real interest in a ToS account except for the software and forking over 3K is a bit much at this stage in the game for me. Maybe after I make my first 10 million, then I'll consider it. :D

Maybe I will open a ToS acct and let it sit there, what's the minimum?

Quote from LeonPhelps:

How easier to manage short leg?

If crash through short strike will end up further on left side of put calendar(loss) on atm than otm. I am referring to P/L diagram.

Got to plug all this into option simulator. I miss my old TOS acct from 2 yrs ago. Still got that stupid monkey somewhere. Can't find similar function on IB. Need to either open small acct at TOS or get some software. Just don't feel like forking over 3K+ to OptionVue. Might need to ask the monkey.
 
$3500 to open a ToS acct. Hmmm.

Quote from spreadn00b:

I'm in the same boat. Have an IB acct, no real interest in a ToS account except for the software and forking over 3K is a bit much at this stage in the game for me. Maybe after I make my first 10 million, then I'll consider it. :D

Maybe I will open a ToS acct and let it sit there, what's the minimum?
 
Quote from riskarb:

The best time spreader I know would buy huge numbers [10k cars +] of otm put time spreads [same-strike] and get neutral [d] based upon a 7 day forward delta with index futures. IIRC, he made > $10mm one year [2001?] from a retail account. He never held a spread longer than 15 trading days. [/B]

So this is a directional trade (ie put on when short signal is generated)? Or is it put on when IV is low?
 
Quote from LeonPhelps:

How easier to manage short leg?

If crash through short strike will end up further on left side of put calendar(loss) on atm than otm. I am referring to P/L diagram.


Sorry, I was referring to the diagonals that are being traded here and not put time spreads. I thought thats what risk was commenting on when he said you need to stay ATM.
 
Ok, I don't mean to ask a silly question but here it goes. I reviewed Sailing's powerpoint presentation on haircut margin. On the double diagonal page (page 29 of the presentation) he shows margin of $13,700 on the DD. How do you calculate haircut margin? I have seen it mentioned in more than one place that it is 6% up and 8% down on SPX. Obviously it is easy to calculate what the percentages are up/down from the current market level but how does this translate into haircut? Sorry for being so dense, I've never dealt with haircut before and am trying to get a handle on it.
 
Quote from rdemyan:

Thanks, risk:

I've wondered about this part. Many of Murray's posts mention how the debit on these spreads tends to stay fairly constant over a fairly long period of time (relative to verticals) and I've noticed myself that this is the case. Why take on more time than necessary to achieve a goal. Two weeks sounds good. Maybe I'll look at a diagonal tomorrow.

If I'm following you correctly, place a DD at 1SD and the price stays relatively constant until you start getting close to expiration. I did a quick model of this in TOS based on what it cost me for my DD I put on a few weeks ago vs what a DD would cost today at 1SD from the market. The cost is nearly identicle BUT the short strikes are much closer to the market now than they were then.
 
Well, actually I was thinking of the Nov 1250/Oct 1275 put diagonal which is around $2.15 on the mid right now. Over the past couple of weeks when I've looked at it, it's been around $2.00 to $2.50.
This observation is purely anecdotal and I have not actually kept track. I was using this anecodotal observation in conjunction with some posts that Murray has made (assuming I understood him correctly). It would be a function of volatility and theta, wouldn't it.

However, I have not yet placed a diagonal. It could be much harder to get filled near the mid closer to expiration than further from expiration.

Also, with the SPX at 1350 does it make sense to place this put diagonal now. I suspect that if Murray chimes in he would want me to bring it up at least 25 points and possibly 50 points.

The Nov 1275/Oct 1300 has a mid of $2.75.


Quote from ryank:

If I'm following you correctly, place a DD at 1SD and the price stays relatively constant until you start getting close to expiration. I did a quick model of this in TOS based on what it cost me for my DD I put on a few weeks ago vs what a DD would cost today at 1SD from the market. The cost is nearly identicle BUT the short strikes are much closer to the market now than they were then.
 
Coach:

What strikes are you considering for November?

Quote from optioncoach:



So all in all, I amhappy with the way it turned out despite the market moving against me. Tomorrow I will be grabbing deep OTM call spreads for NOV :D
 
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