SPX Credit Spread Trader

I really like his suggestion so far, and you bring up a very good point. For some reason, in my mind, I have the situation of the position going against me very quickly (i.e. open the spread, SPX jumps or dumps 30 points in a few days). Of course, the oscillators will continue to show the index as way overbought or way oversold. But what is probably more likely to happen is the situation you're describing. Maybe 20 days into the spread, the underlying is slowly moving against you. The oscillators become wishy washy, so what to do now?

Quote from RichardRimes:

I've been trying to formulate a plan a'la Momoney's suggestions. Right now my short call for SEP is 1330...so tentatively IF the ES gets to say 1315 AND the oscillators are showing neutral to overSOLD I would buy. If the oscillators on the other had are overbought and other TA leads me to believe the odds are we will head down then I wouldn't buy. We will see more next week when the "big" boys get back into the market and either take it to new highs or sell the crap out of it.
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your right...I did forget I legged into that..geez. The nice thing about a poor memory is you can't remember your bad trades either:D

of course now you've made me remember what a stoop I was not to roll out of that 1295:eek: just when I was getting over it!
 
DIAGONAL POSITION UPDATE - CLOSED

Position History
Sold 135 AUG EW 1315 Calls @ Average Price of 1.83
Credit = ~ $12,402.50

Bought 150 SEP ES 1335 Calls @ 1.45
Debit = $10,875

INITIAL NET CREDIT = $1,527.50

Eventually added extra 15 AUG EW Calls @ 4.00 for additional credit of $3,000.

NEW NET CREDIT = $4,527.50

1315 EW Calls expired worthless on Thursday.


----->FINAL DISPOSITION

Nice bounce in the morning on jobs report and I saw the rally fizzle so I decided to take my money now.

Closed the 150 SEP ES 1335 Calls @ 1.05 for a net credit of $7,875


FINAL GROSS PROFIT = $12,402.50

Return = 8.27%




Thanks Murray ;)
 
MoMoney,
I've been reading and re-reading the paragraph quoted below. I'm familiar with straddles and strangles, but I'm having a difficult time understanding exactly what you're proposing to do (my fault, not yours!).

So back to the 1340 bear call spread and SPX is approaching 1310. Are you saying to perhaps buy a call somewhere between 1310 and 1335? This would turn the 1340 short into a 1340/13xx strangle, right?

Quote from momoneythansens:

You may also wish to consider static hedges e.g. long strangles that don't require constant babysitting. These will have the effect of reducing the credit received as a matter of course but with friendlier risk profiles.

Good luck.

MoMoney [/B]
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STO Sep 1250p
BTO Oct 1225p
debit = 3.00
current mid = 2.50

STO Sep 1275p
BTO Oct 1250p
debit = 1.70
current mid = 3.70

STO Sep 1325c
BTO Oct 1350c
debit = 2.90
current mid = 2.00

The continual rise in the market along with the drop in vol is hurting me a bit more. Coach needs to put on a call hedge to help me out :D.

Here is what I am looking at for an Oct/Nov diagonal:

Oct 1275p/Nov 1250p debit= .50
Oct 1350c/Nov 1375c credit .60
Oct 1310p/Nov 1310p (half size position) debit= 2.00

This would give me an approximate profit window of 100 points. I'm half tempted to close my Sep/Oct diagonal and open these new ones, need to think about that more over the weekend though. Might be an adjustment that would work better.
 
Ryan...I'd be very careful with an OCT 1275 short, remember last year and most every other year. I know the diag is great when it does get close to the short and IV would certainly increase...however we could run totally past that short and 1250 in OCT. I certainly wouldn't close your spread just yet....give it until next week. Of course I'm sure you remember well my advise last month:p I still owe you a drink from that:eek:
 
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