SPX Credit Spread Trader

Quote from Heatheranderson:

As they say in the industry, the bull comes up the stairs and the bear goes out the window.

LOL I haven't heard that one before, I love it! :)
 
The short answer is to never put yourself in a position to even deal with early assignment.

For SPX, they are European style so no worries there on early assignment.

For ES credit spreads, I do not wait for the short strike to go ITM to avoid that issue. If the market runs past my short strike unexpectedly, the short options might still have good time value premium so early exercise is a rare occurence. If it does happen for whatever rare reason, I will most likely be helped out since I am out of the short strike at no time value premium and cansell the futures and liquidate the long position as well.

For put ratio spreads, early assignment is a blessing in disguise. :) which allows me to get out of the position without paying time value premium to buy back the shorts.


Quote from alp168:

Coach:

How do you deal with early assignment of ES option if the short strike has been hit (credit spread or similar strategy)? Thanks.
 
Trade with what makes you comfortable. It is a risk/reward trade off. calls feel safer because markets rise in a more steady pace than they crash but the skew makes the premiums smaller requiring you to go a little closer to the money.

Puts have nice skews allowing you to go really far OTM but markets crash faster and IV ramps up.

Just have to weigh the factors of each and go with what you fee more confident trading.

1340 is as low as you want to go really because it is outside recent 8 month highs which is around 1325. Any lower and you might get shaken out of your position if we retest highs in the next 6 weeks or so.

Quote from Heatheranderson:

Sold 20 SPX Aug 1340/1350 Bear Calls -- $0.8 credit

Coach
Appreciate your opinion on this.I have decided not do Bull Put Spreads as we all observed markets come down faster than they go up.(As they say in the industry, the bull comes up the stairs and the bear goes out the window.)thanks
 
Am i the only one here who is uncomfortable putting on AUG bear call positions at this level? Sure it's the summer but this market hasnt been very logical lately. A test of the recent highs isnt completely out of the picture in my opinion. Good luck with your trades.
 
Are you putting on any bull puts? If so, aren't you concerned about the geopolitical risks?


Quote from rallymode:

Am i the only one here who is uncomfortable putting on AUG bear call positions at this level? Sure it's the summer but this market hasnt been very logical lately. A test of the recent highs isnt completely out of the picture in my opinion. Good luck with your trades.
 
Quote from rdemyan:

Are you putting on any bull puts? If so, aren't you concerned about the geopolitical risks?

Actually no, we are too high off the lows for that. I dont have any positions in the SPX right now, still waiting for 1220 or 1290. Just doing some energy and ER bets at the moment.
 
So far it looks like I timed my ES put ratio spread entry very well as moving average rsistance held yesterday and we are up today. Should be sideways to up hopefully unless job reports is way off base in either direction.


Quote from optioncoach:

Well I decdied to dip into JULY using ES options based on what is going on in the charts.

Sold 300 July ES 1220/1210 Put Spreads @ $0.55

Credit = $8,250

Risk = $141,750

Return = 5.8%

Why I chose these strikes?

We have had a nice bounce off the bottom in the SPX and ES and today, despite the large drop we have bounced off moving average resistance so far.

Also, the low on ES after the huge plunge was 1229 so I placed my sh ort strike outside the 8-month lows. With just over two weeks to expiration I have some support levels and wiggle room to hold on to.

We are likely going to hit some boring churns in the market with the Fed meeting a month away. Some earnings might start coming out as well as the watchful eye on economic data but I expect us to stay a little rangebound without any major news event.
 
Quote from rdemyan:

Hi Heather:

Who is your broker. Seems like a good fill. The new ToS functionality indicates that the SPX would have to be above 1280 to get the fill that you got.

IMHO, for SPX spreads, that thing is junk. It works purely off assumptions of where fills might occur mid vs. nat. It's nothing like the TPC. I would love to see the TPC functionality solved for price rather than value.

I got a 34 contract fill at AUG 1345/1355 for .60 @ 11:25:49 EDT, but I had to chat with TOS to get them to check with the floor broker. Bid was .50, but it filled about 20 seconds later as it did for others at TOS.
 
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