SPX Credit Spread Trader

Quote from Aardvark:

In the larger scheme of things I do think. This verdict is very important. I agree with the person who said this is more important to investor confidence than Sar-Ox. At least for me it is. I thought Martha's sentance totally bogus but as an investor in US public companies I do feel these two ran a company into the ground and ruined the lives of many and need to pay just as any crook who goes into your home and robs you blind. If they had gotten off while Fastow sits in jail I honestly would have to re-evaluate if I want to ever invest in companies again.

ps..never owned Enron but did Worldcom and Global Crossings and how can an investor do due dilligence when the ex's are completely crooked...and in cahoots with analysists
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OK I do have a bit of an opinion. I will tell you what I think the most bogus thing about the enron case is, but it has more to do with what I think is a broken US system.

Many crooked ex's specifically position their companies in states such as Texas for the protection that the state's laws allow. In Texas the laws are very forgiving of those companies who would cheat their investors like enron did. For example, certain of the ex's personal assets are protected from liquidation and even piercing the corporate veil cannot touch them. In the case of Texas you are allowed a parcel of land of a certain size that contains a residence. In urban areas the parcel is smaller but in rural areas it is quite expansive. This allows the ex's to build a high-rise office structure in downtown Houston with a suite at the top and while all of their other assets are liquidated, they will still own a billion dollar piece of real estate.

States do this to attract companies for higher tax revenues, but it is very much at the expense of the investors. That really does irritate me.
 
Quote from Cache Landing:

OK let me rephrase, If we get to 1280-1285 I'm going to start thinking about ITM credit spreads. LOL:D

you want a sox credit spread? i will give you a great price LOL
 
Quote from ready:

We all hear how the market likes to climb the wall of worry, and those of you that follow this and other Wall Street adages might be interested in this, even as the DJIA rallies 76 points today and the SPX trades 10 pts higher.



The SPX is at or about 1268



The skew of volatility is dramatic in the puts, as the June 1125 puts, more than 143 points out-the-money, are trading for $1.00 apiece. Meanwhile the June 1315 calls are also trading for $1.00, even though they are just 47 points out-the-money.



That means investors want $1 for a put that is 11 percent out-the-money, but will sell you the right to the upside above 1315, a move of just 3.7 percent for that same dollar. Hmmm...

Spreads on the put side suck too.
 
Quote from Cache Landing:

Spreads on the put side suck too.

unless you go naked, and care lil about the black swan sun burn LOL

riskarb has a pretty good thing going with his risk reversals which is probably the only time i will go naked on the put side
 
I just got off the phone with some investment advisor firm from Chicago (they called me out of the blue). I told him I trade options, not the international ETF's he told me they like to put their clients in. He said "Oh, then you must be trading covered calls?" and stuttered when he said it. I said no, I trade different strategies than that. He then named off a number of options strategies that he must have read about in a sales training manual and then continued on with his pitch for signing up with his firm and getting into international ETFs. It was quite funny.
 
Quote from rallymode:

unless you go naked, and care lil about the black swan sun burn LOL

riskarb has a pretty good thing going with his risk reversals which is probably the only time i will go naked.

You laugh, but it's been tempting lately.:D

Haven't quite decided about the R/R. Seems extremely margin intensive to me. I'm trying to figure out whether I like them.
 
Quote from Cache Landing:

You laugh, but it's been tempting lately.:D

Actually, i have a ratio put spread which leaves me naked below SPX 1050. Every now and then i become adventurous :)
 
Quote from rallymode:

Actually, i have a ratio put spread which leaves me naked below SPX 1050. Every now and then i become adventurous :)

1050 is adventurous? Let me guess... June ratio spread?
 
Quote from Cache Landing:



Haven't quite decided about the R/R. Seems extremely margin intensive to me. I'm trying to figure out whether I like them.

Not if you use ES options. It has the best of both worlds but just like everything else, you MUST get the direction right. Also, the ES hedge is a good tool to go flat or scalp but i dont have the capital to do combo's in multiples of 50.
 
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