SPX Credit Spread Trader

Agreed. Just wanted to hear another opinion on the subject. I had an IC this month, so I would still be positive 8.3% ROI after commissions. Thanks.

Quote from optioncoach:

Well today it is hard to tell where we are going to end up. We are at 1310 and may hover here. BUT, there is always a chance of a large SET so my advice is consider getting out at $0.25 of $0.30 if you can and avoid a SET situation that we could be talking about for years as "Avoid the Synaptic SET Scenrio".

Now if you do that, and SET is like 2.00 or so, do not be mad at money left on the table because if you just imagine a wide SET and a $6,000 loss you might feel differently.

Start agressive if you want with $0.25 to close.

Some may disagree with me. If the market dips back to 1305, I think you are safe but it is like allowing Robert Horry to be open for a 3 pointer in the 7th game of the NBA championship when you are up by 2. He will not kill you every time, but when he hits the shot, you lose and that is all that matters. So always defend against it.
 
Yeah. I am in a similar situation. I have a Mar 1320/1335 bear call. At this point if I close it I will just be buying back the 1320. Right now the bid/ask is $0.45/0.50 for the 1320. I've had an order in since the open to get out at $0.10, but I'll be upping that soon.

In the past, I have noticed a pretty large drop in individual OTM option prices during the last hour of the last day to trade. But this situation is kind of crazy with the SPX blasting higher, quadruple witching, etc.








Quote from optioncoach:

Well today it is hard to tell where we are going to end up. We are at 1310 and may hover here. BUT, there is always a chance of a large SET so my advice is consider getting out at $0.25 of $0.30 if you can and avoid a SET situation that we could be talking about for years as "Avoid the Synaptic SET Scenrio".

Now if you do that, and SET is like 2.00 or so, do not be mad at money left on the table because if you just imagine a wide SET and a $6,000 loss you might feel differently.

Start agressive if you want with $0.25 to close.

Some may disagree with me. If the market dips back to 1305, I think you are safe but it is like allowing Robert Horry to be open for a 3 pointer in the 7th game of the NBA championship when you are up by 2. He will not kill you every time, but when he hits the shot, you lose and that is all that matters. So always defend against it.
 
Quote from ryank:

I downloaded the TOS software this morning. After initially fumbling my way around the analyze page and having to click for help I now am able to work it. This really blows OX away! After I switch in a few weeks I just hope the fills are better and the commissions don't go up. The more I play with the software the more I like it. I can now do my hedge search with the awesome analyze page.

ryan

If you haven't done so yet, take a quick look at the video tutorials (especially the analyze tutorial). There are a couple features that I didn't know about until I watched those. Pretty cool what you can do with TOS.
 
Bought back the March 1320 call for $0.20. I'm quite satisfied with this and am still looking at a good month. Still have a 1330 short strike for March but that looks to be safe.

Quote from rdemyan:

Yeah. I am in a similar situation. I have a Mar 1320/1335 bear call. At this point if I close it I will just be buying back the 1320. Right now the bid/ask is $0.45/0.50 for the 1320. I've had an order in since the open to get out at $0.10, but I'll be upping that soon.

In the past, I have noticed a pretty large drop in individual OTM option prices during the last hour of the last day to trade. But this situation is kind of crazy with the SPX blasting higher, quadruple witching, etc.
 
I decided to take no chances on the SET; so I bought back the 1330 short strike for $0.05. Since I was also able to sell my remaining long 1335 for $0.05, I broke even except for the commissions.

Peace of mind is a wonderful thing, esp. when it can be purchased so cheaply.

Quote from rdemyan:

Bought back the March 1320 call for $0.20. I'm quite satisfied with this and am still looking at a good month. Still have a 1330 short strike for March but that looks to be safe.
 
You broke even on the trade for a nickle? You sold the spread for a nickle? I must be missing something lol.

Quote from rdemyan:

I decided to take no chances on the SET; so I bought back the 1330 short strike for $0.05. Since I was also able to sell my remaining long 1335 for $0.05, I broke even except for the commissions.

Peace of mind is a wonderful thing, esp. when it can be purchased so cheaply.
 
Let's see:

I had a 1320/1335 and I bought back the 1320 for $0.20 and sold
the 1335 for $0.05 (legged trades).

I also had a remaining 1330/1345 and bought back the 1330 short for $0.05 just to eliminate any chance that the SET could affect me.


So I was referring to the 1335 and 1330 even though they weren't matched up. I considered myself lucky to unload the 1335 long for a nickel, so I thought I would take advantage of that "windfall" and eliminate any possible SET risk on the 1330 by buying it back for a nickel.


Quote from optioncoach:

You broke even on the trade for a nickle? You sold the spread for a nickle? I must be missing something lol.
 
Ahhh when you say breakeven it implies you made or lost no money on the trade. I assume you still made money on those spreads (i.e. sold them for a lot more than the $0.15 to close).

Always a good idea to take the profit and avoid SET issues. Remember I always said that SET is not a big deal at all, just close out the position by Thursday and you never have to even worry about SET ;)
 
Do guys factor in commish on these trades? I have 100 1325/1335 and if I closed out for even .05, it would still cost me $500 plus the $250 in commish, $750 total. Not chump change for a very small prob of expiring in the $$.

Yes, I know there is the risk of SET, but that would have to be a pretty wicked set to gap up 13+ points from where it is right now, 3:40pm.
sd

Quote from rdemyan:

Let's see:

I had a 1320/1335 and I bought back the 1320 for $0.20 and sold
the 1335 for $0.05 (legged trades).

I also had a remaining 1330/1345 and bought back the 1330 short for $0.05 just to eliminate any chance that the SET could affect me.


So I was referring to the 1335 and 1330 even though they weren't matched up. I considered myself lucky to unload the 1335 long for a nickel, so I thought I would take advantage of that "windfall" and eliminate any possible SET risk on the 1330 by buying it back for a nickel.
 
Quote from skdoyle1:

Do guys factor in commish on these trades? I have 100 1325/1335 and if I closed out for even .05, it would still cost me $500 plus the $250 in commish, $750 total. Not chump change for a very small prob of expiring in the $$.

Yes, I know there is the risk of SET, but that would have to be a pretty wicked set to gap up 13+ points from where it is right now, 3:40pm.
sd

Its more than $250 in commish isn't it? you have 100 1325's and 100 1335's so that would be $500 at 1.25 per contract unless your closing out just the 1325's. BTW I agree with you it is definitely one of my considerations...I try not to be foolish with it but given the feel of the market and some of the big players ie large cap's...If say GE were reporting tomorrow or tonight and you thought they might gap up the next am then you might weigh it more carefully.
 
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