SPX Credit Spread Trader

>There are no "quotes" for speads, only taking a combination of quotes for the options themselves. It's called the natural bid/ask.

I spoke with TOS about this. They indicated the natural bid/ask is indeed from different exchanges, and can only fill a spread from one exchange.

However, they said that if a customer has a problem getting a fill, to call the trade desk and they will work with us.
 
Coach or Anyone:
A newbie question. What RSI and/or Stochastic charting parameters do you normally use for indicating oversold/overbought conditions for credit spreads? I am using the charts that OX Java charts provides and their fast stochastic is set at (10,3,10). Is this ok or would other settings be more appropriate. Thanks for any help.

Jim
 
Quote from burrben:

Got filled on my Sept/Oct Diagonal this morning. Details:
VIX : 13.40
STO 10 SPX SEPT 1225 PUT
BTO 10 SPX OCT 1200 PUT
Mid of : 3.00 Debit
Fill at : 3.20

Current Mid : 2.95.

I tried to get filled at 3.10 forever but couldn't.



burrben,

Your price looks about right. The mid price i was quoted was around 3.10. VIX was around 13.65. So i probably would have been filled around 3.30.

Might get some if vix stays low today.
 
Quote from momoneythansens:

Multiple rolls: when there is more than one month between front and back month e.g. aug/oct gives you two roll opportunities.

Obviously the further out the back month the greater the initial debit - but you have to balance that against estimated multiple roll credits to evaluate risk/reward. Obviously, sideways markets like last year and the beginning of this year were ideal for multi-month market neutral double diagonals. You have to take a view on whether we are likely to see that kind of price action again and place your diagonals accordingly.

MoMoney.


Open RUT 740/800 sep/dec call diagonal at a debit of 2.3 to test the effect of multiple rolls
 
With the SPX rising up above 1290 my rules call for me to close out my 1300/1310 Bearish Call Spread. The marketmakers were tough and I had to debit out for the ask before getting a fill.

Updated original August Positions:

1300/1310 Bearish Call Spread for $1.00
1155/1165 Bullish Put Spread for $0.90
Total Credit = $1.90

1300/1310 Bearish Call Spread CLOSED for -$1.30 debit
1155/1165 Bullish Put Spread for $0.90 (to expire worthless)
Total Net Credit August 2006 = $0.60, a 6% Return (not counting commissions)

Sometimes you have to settle for 6% returns rather than 19% returns. :D
 
Quote from rsflint:

With the SPX rising up above 1290 my rules call for me to close out my 1300/1310 Bearish Call Spread. The marketmakers were tough and I had to debit out for the ask before getting a fill.

Updated original August Positions:

1300/1310 Bearish Call Spread for $1.00
1155/1165 Bullish Put Spread for $0.90
Total Credit = $1.90

1300/1310 Bearish Call Spread CLOSED for -$1.30 debit
1155/1165 Bullish Put Spread for $0.90 (to expire worthless)
Total Net Credit August 2006 = $0.60, a 6% Return (not counting commissions)

Sometimes you have to settle for 6% returns rather than 19% returns. :D

6% is really a good return. It means 100% a year (assume compounding)
 
UPDATE CURRENT OPEN POSITION SUMMARY OF SPREADS:


1. SPX August Credit Spread

LIMPING Iron Condor

STO 300 AUG SPX 1125/1115 Put Spreads @ $0.50
Credit = $15,000
UPDATE Closed put spread for $0.05 and rolled up to 300 SPX 1210/1220 for $0.25. Thus an additional net credit of $0.20 or $6,000

STO 150 AUG SPX 1310/1320 Call SPreads @ $0.55
Credit = $8,250
Update Closed spread for $0.25 debit or profit of $0.30/$4,500.

----->Market pushing higher into expiration and data coming out every day I do not want to worry about SET tomorrow and Friday so I took my profit and got out the way :D

NEW COMBINED CREDIT = $25,500

Return = 9.2%



2. ES/EW Call Ratio Diagonal Spread

-----> Decided to grab whatever remaining premium that existed in the AUG 1330 ES calls and sold the 50 lot for an average price of .14 (did it in bunches). That brings in $350 and the new final profit is edited below



Net Credit Profit = $3,100


3. ES Diagonal Put Spread

Sold 20 AUG ES 1225 Puts @ 8.75

Bought 20 SEP ES 1200 Puts @ 11.00

Net Debit = 2.25 or $2,250

VIX = 14.57

--------> Still holding on as I see potential for downward movement into the end of the summer and into September. The AUG puts will expire worthless and the SEP might have some good profit potential if we get a strong move lower and VIX increase.
 
Thanks, Mo.

In trouble this month with bear calls; with XEO moving up.
I was on vacation and did not monitor..............

Just rolled up. But, may need another roll up or out tomorrow.
 
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