SPX Credit Spread Trader

Quote from andysmith:

Put open interest at 1225 is huge... but then as I think about it, those puts already got closed/rolled if they were short.
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andy,

you are one of few believers of the max pain theory that i know :)
 
Quote from piccon:


But I will continue doing some debit spread for the next three months with the vols picking up. Debit spreads can be very profitable.
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I am glad someone else in here is doing those. I did quite a few debit put spreads and put diagonals on etfs and individual names this month. My trading the SPX will change very soon if we get into an increasing vols environment. Enjoy your vacation, i am sure you need it. Go date a JA look a like or something :D
 
>If you are trading a sound plan, it will be profitable over time.

I remember Williams did an experiment with an exit rule.

He entered the market randomly, and by following his exit rule, he actually did a little better than be.
 
Quote from cdowis:

>If you are trading a sound plan, it will be profitable over time.

I remember Williams did an experiment with an exit rule.

He entered the market randomly, and by following his exit rule, he actually did a little better than be.
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Limiting your losses is where the money, long term, is made.
 
My understanding: when vol is low, buying options are cheap, that's the time to buy debit spreads. When vol is high, premium from credit spreads are attractive... This is the opposite of your comment... please enlighten.


Quote from rallymode:

I am glad someone else in here is doing those. I did quite a few debit put spreads and put diagonals on etfs and individual names this month. My trading the SPX will change very soon if we get into an increasing vols environment. Enjoy your vacation, i am sure you need it. Go date a JA look a like or something :D
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I'm on vacation and haven't really caught up to the thread. Just an update on my position. June 1225/1245 put CS. Rolled today for a debt of $6...originally received about a 4.60-4.85 credit (haven't done all the math yet:)) so taking it on the chin for over a buck..ouch.. with risk for next month as well. will explain my rational over the weekend but basically I do believe we are somewhere at a bottom with a decent chance to rebound over the next couple of weeks, and had I closed the spread I would have realized a $15 loss per contract (about 150K in total)...just didn't feel like taking that today...thank you.

having said all that. I don't think low/high/med vol's necessarily favour or disfavour debt vs. credit spreads. Haven't we all been preached to enough that they are the same thing:p The bottom line is defined risk...both are such. I certainly am not giving up on credit spreads, but will manage them differently in higher vol's than low vol's. There is no more of a guarantee of making money utilizing debt over credit spreads. Hope everyone has a great weekend, and better expiration than me:D
 
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