SPX Credit Spread Trader
- Thread starter El OchoCinco
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Rallymode,
The reason your strategy (buy stock & buy deep in the money puts) looks favorable to you is that you are missing a piece of the puzzle.
The missing piece is the amount of money necessary to finance the position.
Explanation:
If you bought 100 shares at 129.75 and 1 put for 3.30 the spread costs $13,275.
If you can invest money risk free at 5% and there is 21 days till expiration then your finance charge for the trade is $38, (13275*.05/365*21).
You effectively paid 43$ for the 133 call ($38 to finance the trade & 5$ time value when you paid 3.30 for the put and 129.75 for the stock).
right now the 133 call market is .20-.30
you should buy the call for .30 instead of synthetically buying the call through your strategy for .43 plus more commissions.
Please check all my math, I have been wrong before....
The reason your strategy (buy stock & buy deep in the money puts) looks favorable to you is that you are missing a piece of the puzzle.
The missing piece is the amount of money necessary to finance the position.
Explanation:
If you bought 100 shares at 129.75 and 1 put for 3.30 the spread costs $13,275.
If you can invest money risk free at 5% and there is 21 days till expiration then your finance charge for the trade is $38, (13275*.05/365*21).
You effectively paid 43$ for the 133 call ($38 to finance the trade & 5$ time value when you paid 3.30 for the put and 129.75 for the stock).
right now the 133 call market is .20-.30
you should buy the call for .30 instead of synthetically buying the call through your strategy for .43 plus more commissions.
Please check all my math, I have been wrong before....
I don't know... if it is a synthetic call I would rather buy the long call then put out $129K of my cash. Also if you buy the puts at intrinsic value then theta is not as relevant since you have no time value premium to erode.
If it is part of a bigger strategy then it will still be easier to buy the long 130 Call or 129 Call.
If it is part of a bigger strategy then it will still be easier to buy the long 130 Call or 129 Call.
Yeah, all this sidewaus chruning is very helpful for the positions 
For Donna, the chartbender seminar on calendars:
This past Thursday, March 30, Craig Faassen (ChartBender's Chief Option Strategist) gave another webinar on Long Calendars. If you weren't able to make the presentation, no worries. We recorded it and it is now available for download. The overall webinar is about 60 minutes long and contains some excellent information on using ChartBender's tools to find and profit from Long Calendars.
The file can be downloaded at:
http://www.chartbender.com/cbwebinar20060330.aspx
This past Thursday, March 30, Craig Faassen (ChartBender's Chief Option Strategist) gave another webinar on Long Calendars. If you weren't able to make the presentation, no worries. We recorded it and it is now available for download. The overall webinar is about 60 minutes long and contains some excellent information on using ChartBender's tools to find and profit from Long Calendars.
The file can be downloaded at:
http://www.chartbender.com/cbwebinar20060330.aspx
Phil,
Do you have the webinar from January you did with Cottle in Tampa?
It was a private symposium with about 6 of us. The only output that was created was a manual Chartbeder.com created for the retail trader to understand the basics of options and the Greeks. We spent a lot of time talk ing about complex strategies between us but it was not for others, just for us lol.
Most of the complex option trading discussions were over many drinks at tropical bar and restaurant near the hotel
Most of the complex option trading discussions were over many drinks at tropical bar and restaurant near the hotel
REPOSTING MY CURRENT POSITIONS (COCONUT)
SPX CALL DIAGONAL SPREAD:
- 8 SPX APR 1340 Calls @ $4.70
+ 10 SPX MAY 1375 Calls @ $3.10
Net Credit = $660
SPX BULL PUT SPREAD:
- 350 SPX APR 1225/1235 Put Spreads @ $0.35
Net Credit = $12,250
PUT SPREAD PARTIAL HEDGE:
+ 100 SPY APR 126/125 Put Spreads @ $0.10
Net Debit = $1,000
(Prop) -125 SPX APR 1225/1235 Put Spreads @ $0.30
Net Credit = $3,750
SPX CALL DIAGONAL SPREAD:
- 8 SPX APR 1340 Calls @ $4.70
+ 10 SPX MAY 1375 Calls @ $3.10
Net Credit = $660
SPX BULL PUT SPREAD:
- 350 SPX APR 1225/1235 Put Spreads @ $0.35
Net Credit = $12,250
PUT SPREAD PARTIAL HEDGE:
+ 100 SPY APR 126/125 Put Spreads @ $0.10
Net Debit = $1,000
(Prop) -125 SPX APR 1225/1235 Put Spreads @ $0.30
Net Credit = $3,750
That is strange. Try contacting them at support@chartbender.com I have not time to open the files yet actually