Spiritual Aspects of Trading

60 posts and growing. I apologize for not responding to everyone's posts. There was a problem with my account's ability to post. All fixed. Thanks Joe A. I'll start working my way through this week.

Al
 
Quote from vhehn:

the reality is that there is no evidence of anything supernatural. the reality also is that people who talk gibberish to some imaginary deity in the sky who never answers back are not dealing with reality. sorry thats just the way it is. deal with it.
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That is strange. The universe itself is a supernatural occurrence, and your transformation from hydrogren and helium to an intelligent human being. So to doubt the supernatural is itself doubting the natural
 
Quote from vhehn:

religions are based on faith and hope and an inability to deal with reality. not good traits for traders to have.
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The reality is that you cannot understand yourself without appeal to a higher source. It is just illogical (take it all the way back from evolution to the BIG BANG). Faith is not inability to deal with reality. It is a realisation that reality is incomplete without faith.
 
Quote from neke:

That is strange. The universe itself is a supernatural occurrence, and your transformation from hydrogren and helium to an intelligent human being. So to doubt the supernatural is itself doubting the natural
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Good point.

If you don't believe in the supernatural, your view cannot be based in science.

See link below for an additional phenomenon of transformation.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4237751840526284618&q=what+the+bleep&pl=true
 
Quote from neke:

The reality is that you cannot understand yourself without appeal to a higher source. It is just illogical (take it all the way back from evolution to the BIG BANG). Faith is not inability to deal with reality. It is a realisation that reality is incomplete without faith.
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"The very concept of faith is an insult to human intelligence. If you take something on faith, you are in effect saying, "I don't need evidence, facts, or logic. Evidence is worthless, facts are for ninnies, logic is nonsense. I'll believe whatever I want even if reality overwhelmingly shows that it's just not true."
 
Quote from vhehn:

"The very concept of faith is an insult to human intelligence. If you take something on faith, you are in effect saying, "I don't need evidence, facts, or logic. Evidence is worthless, facts are for ninnies, logic is nonsense. I'll believe whatever I want even if reality overwhelmingly shows that it's just not true."
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See post directly above yours.
 
Quote from vhehn:

"The very concept of faith is an insult to human intelligence. If you take something on faith, you are in effect saying, "I don't need evidence, facts, or logic. Evidence is worthless, facts are for ninnies, logic is nonsense. I'll believe whatever I want even if reality overwhelmingly shows that it's just not true."
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Faith is not blind acceptance of positions that contradicts the fact. It is a relaisation that our knowledge based on facts are incomplete. I think it is sheer arrogance to think our limited human intelligence can "auto-discover" everything about ourselves. It is like the computer one day coming out with this statement about itself "I am assembled by human beings from silicon". What would you as the designer of that computer make of that intelligence? I guess you would laugh at the "foolishness" the computer calls intelligence.

By the reckoning of science, intelligence came into being at one time (not to question when time come into being!): from a big bang of inanimate matter that ultimately transformed to living beings and intelligent humans. And with this evolved intelligence man thinks he can answer all questions about himself! Do you not think there is a snag somewhere?
 
Quote from Cutten:

... I think at least 99% of all spiritual thinking ... is meaningless sophistry. ...
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as in talking about trading. but then ... there is this 1% that
makes the difference ...
 
Quote from Johnnie T-Bond:/foible

Jesus whipped the moneychangers out of the temple because they were defiling God's house by making it a house of mechandise; not because moneychanging itself was anti-Christian.

If you read the parable of the talents in Matthew 25: 14-31 you will also note that Jesus praised the man who employed his talent ( 3000 shekels of silver) and doubled it by TRADING in the marketplace. He said "well done thou good and faithful servant." I don't believe Jesus would have cited a parable that illustrated the rewards and praise for increasing one's wealth if it had been contrary to his doctrine.

Making money can be righteous or unrighteous depending on the motives behind it. If the money is made by legal tricks or by taking advantage of the poor it is evil. If it accrues from some service to mankind it is not. From a trading perspective, one's profits can bless mankind directly or indirectly or it can be used for selfish glofification of one's person. Money can be good or evil depending on the motive for attaining it or using it.
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Good points;
more than 2 good points:cool:

Right on the money exchangers;
just looked it up. Jesus tell s the wicked & lazy servant quote'' you should have put my money with the exchangers[bankers], then at my coming I should have recieved mine own with interest''King james & Amplified version

And to amplify a partial point of nickname foible;
its not just new testament Christianity.Sure thats important But My banker dad never preached this one to me-he practiced the last one.

King Solomon the trader king said ''the lazy man roasteth not that which he took in hunting;
but the {diligent}industriois man reaps a rich harvest .
Proverbs 12,Old Testament, Solomon,son of king David.

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