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I really had no idea about internet marketing until you started the thread. However I did get the Power of Persuasion audiobook by Cialdini since he was one you suggested ($1.95 on itunes). It was actually pretty interesting as far as the psychological aspect of what causes people to buy things. There is a lot to learn here -- it will take me a while to remember all this stuff.

I run a successful internet forum for a friend. It's about photoretouching/editing with programs like Photoshop. I only handle the technical end of things and she manages the actual forum. There are over 100000 posts on the forum.

Reading your thread gave me a lot of ideas for how she could make some money off the forum.
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You should also check out Cialdini's book influence. I'd say that every single interaction I have with a person who is a potential buyer is based upon one of the seven principles he talks about. It's some very powerful stuff.

Your sitting on a huge vien of cash if you mine it correctly. Go slow with them since they are not used to being sold too, realize your going to piss some people off...and realize that's ok because they where never going to give you anything anyway.
 
A couple of people have asked me about dynamic ads. At first dynamic ads seem like your dream come tru in terms of relavancy and getting good traffic etc. Well, its a friggin nightmare. If you don't know what dynamic keywords are..GOOD, just keep it that way and believe me that you will be very very happy that way.
 
and i pretty much tried to run it in any ad that talked about bernie madoff.
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Gees, it would be interesting to know what content ads popped up when there was an article about madoff before he was discovered. I wonder if there were ads for planes and diamonds and great returns. Now it is just lawyers advertising.

I had to laugh when I first started paying attention to context ads several years ago. I posted a misogynic joke and ads popped up for domestic violence.

I wonder if there is a collection or lists for what brings up what, or what not to use where the results have unintended results (as in what happened in my example).
 
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and i pretty much tried to run it in any ad that talked about bernie madoff.
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Gees, it would be interesting to know what content ads popped up when there was an article about madoff before he was discovered. I wonder if there were ads for planes and diamonds and great returns. Now it is just lawyers advertising.

I had to laugh when I first started paying attention to context ads several years ago. I posted a misogynic joke and ads popped up for domestic violence.

I wonder if there is a collection or lists for what brings up what, or what not to use where the results have unintended results (as in what happened in my example).
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I never bid on Bernard Madoff per say, but I watch PopURLS and Digg to see what articles about him are popular. Then I bid on that article's title as my exact keyword. If the attorney's where smart that's what they'd do too coz bidding for Bernard Madoff's has gotten expensive as hell, you can get the articles for 5 cents and it's the same thing.
 
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I never bid on Bernard Madoff per say, but I watch PopURLS and Digg to see what articles about him are popular. Then I bid on that article's title as my exact keyword. If the attorney's where smart that's what they'd do too coz bidding for Bernard Madoff's has gotten expensive as hell, you can get the articles for 5 cents and it's the same thing.
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btw, PopURLS and Digg are an absolute friggin goldmine for headline idea's and whatnot, or figuring out something to write about that people are talking about and will be interested in. I've only just recently started to use them ( I was slow to the web 2.0 thang) but it's been very profitable thus far.
 
I have a good news bad news type of situation to report.

The bad news is that I will no longer be able to post to this particular thread (although I will still be posting trading related info).

The good news is that there is a great reason for it. I have just been hired by the 2nd largest info product publishing company on the internet to head up product development in the financial field, an area they are not currently in. The company was started 5 1/2 years ago by a former senior executive from Microsoft Another of the executives from the company is an ET member who had been reading my thread and brought it to the attention of the owner. I talked to him and we got along like long lost sisters and I was offered a job in Seattle, and since it comes with some insurance and also pays more per week then most people make in a year and has strong performance bonus built into it, I figured I'd be kind of stupid to not try it out for six months and see how I do.

I have really enjoyed my time on ET. My best "online friends" are nearly all people I met here.

I will be, as I said, remaining a member of the community - but I simply can not give out marketing info and whatnot anymore.

I can tell you that the info in this thread is priceless, regardless of what sparky might have to say about it. I think that the income statement I posted last week proves that. If you take the info from the posts here and use your own brain a little bit you are going to go very far.

Brandon
 
I'll have the videos up for the next week that I recorded and then I have to take them down. The content of this thread will obviously stay, and there are some great examples in it. I really do think that if you just take the written content here you can do very well.
 
Here is something I just wanted to share wtih you guys that followed this thread. I hope some of you are getting out there and making money with this internet thang, because the info on this thread really is a gold mine, and provides more then enough info to get you going in the right direction. I was going to take all of the videos down, but I've managed to not have to do that because I've been able to get a lot more autonomy in the deal I have signed with the info marketing company.

One thing I wanted to share with you though, and this is about people spending money. There is all kinds of talk about the recession and how now one is spending money. Let me tell you something, drive through a trailer park, or the ghetto. Tell me how many flat screen TV's those people own, how many satellite dishes they own, and how many new car's and trucks those people own. The point is, people spend money on things they want.

I just flew from Chicago to Seattle business class. It was basically full. We all paid $1500 or so per seat, 26 of us out of I think about 30 seats. I'm guessing everyone paid $1200 to $2000 to sit there. I'd have had more leg room if I'd have flown coach coz I could have gone to the back and laid down in the back of the plane where entire rows did not have people in them. People buy what they want.

Another example. In the Internet Marketing world I think that a guy named Jeff Walker and another fellow named Frank Kern have the best products out there, hands down. Frank's Product is called Mass Control. He just released Mass Control 2.0 at Noon Eastern Time today for $1997 and he just now closed the link down after having sold 1914 copies since NOON TODAY. Thats about $3.8million in 12 hours for Frank. Eighty percent of those people probably will never even take the package out of the shrink wrapping, and of the 20% who do 90% of them will never use it. The remaining 2% will probably be millionares with in 3 years, and that's not any hype or BS. I don't know Frank from the man on the moon and he doesnt know me either. But, I've bought and used his product, it's great.
Ditto Jeff Walkers. Jeff did his last launch right around the time the stock market was really starting to crater in Sept/Octoberish. He did a limited release of 500 copies of Product Launch Formula, again $1997. I think it took him two and a half days to sell out, but it was a pretty small launch. The last time he did a big launch he brought in around $1million in a few hours, but the economy was better then too.
Same thing applies with Jeff Walkers shit too. Eighty percent of the people who buy it probably wont ever take it out of the shrink wrap. Of the twenty percent who do probably on 10% will ever actually do anything with it. Of those 10%, I'd drink piss if they are not millionares with in two years, and I'm serious. If you can find someone who used his stuff, step by step, followed it did the damn work (and it's a lot of work) and did not become a millionare, I'd drink piss...and you know just like when I offered $100 for a single bad review of my products from a client here on ET a few years ago, I aint worried about drinking piss coz there isnt such a person.

Jeff's product's not for sale anymore, so I'm not getting anything by mentioning it here either.

But here is the point. The info ya'll got in here is a great place to start. There are also EXCELLENT resources out there if your willing to dig and look for them. My online business right now are doing better then ever. BETTER THEN EVER, and I've not even gotten around to getting back into the biggest market of them all yet, stocks...which I will.

When I do I'll probably stop doing all the other stuff, because the thing is with the things i know now about marketing, the things I've learned selling photography courses, Chex Systems Victims Courses, Cluster Headache Help, Email Marketing etc etc..those markets are sooooo sooooo sooo small compared to the stock market. I was thrilled in any of those niches to have a list of 10,000 people. I can pull 10,000 in two months in the stock market and if you do your marketing right, each name on your list is worth about $25 to $30 to you.

None of this is to brag, I already posted a screenshot of the money I made in one single week last month. It's just to tell you guys that I really hope that those of you who started to follow this thread are continueing to pursue it. There is a lot of money out there. Is it the easiest money in the world to get? Of course not, especially when your first learning..but it's something you can do.

To your success,
Brandon
 
was forwarded an article yesterday that appeared on MSN
Moneycentral giving 52 ways to make extra cash in this
"downturn". Go ahead read it for a laugh:

http://blogs.moneycentral.msn.com/smartspending/archive/2009/02/06/52-ways-to-make-extra-money.aspx

Hmmm...Let's see "Delivering Pizzas" is #1.

"Waiting Tables" #2. And being a "Car Valet" stacks up as
#5.

REALLY?!? I mean seriously? Yes when your struggling you have to sometimes get a "real job". Hell when I first strated trading and before I turned the corner to profitability I had a "real job" too (and no, it wasnt selling stuff online). I pumped gas at Jay Patel's Sinclair gas station. But seriously this advice is fucking terrible overall.

one of the problems with well-meaning mainstream
advice it's usually absolutely and totally wrong! Am I
really going to make some extra change delivering pizzas
this weekend? C'mon!

I found it amusing that #8 was one of the very few options
listed that didn't fall into the trap of trading time for
dollars...and they threw that one under the bus. Here's what
they say:

#8 Write an ebook. I hesitate to put this one in here
because an ebook by itself usually doesn't make money unless
you're an excellent marketer. What a great ebook can do,
though, is act as a sales lead to one of your other online
businesses.

Oh I can only cite several dozen people I personally know who make everything from a little extra each month to several MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR with a friggin e-book. But the auther "hestitates to add it". He hesitates to add it cos he has NO BUSINESS giving the advice he is giving. He thinks that waiting tables is such a great way to make extra cash, maybe he should give up on giving terrible advice and take up waiting tables or delivering pizza. Hey if your the pizza boy there is always at least the lotto winners chance of your ultimate porno fantasy coming true with a co-ed.

real point here is this exactly the kind of B.S. most
people hear that stops them from making real headway in
creating real freedom and independence. They get
disparaging advice for something that actually has a shot
and hear encouraging advice to re-use their tin foil
(seriously - I've heard it).

One of the key pillars to achieving financial independence
is the power of leverage and to stop trading hours for
dollars. Period. End of story.

To me, it's like in the Matrix when Neo is offered the blue
pill or red pill. Once you swallow the 'red pill' - there is
really no going back!

There is a real 'red pill' that will unchain your mind.
It'll let you say 'screw off' to any of the talking heads on
TV dispensing their scarcity-minded advice. It's like you
having the golden ticket and the formula to creating revenue
on demand.

When this switch is turned on inside your head there is no
going back...

Seriously - I have to warn you it'll be hard to deal with
your same friends and even your family sometimes. While
others are scared, cowering and frightened you have the
opportunity to take the bold step of breaking away!

Are you willing to do it? Are you willing to make the choice
to step over to the 'other side'?

I told ya'll yesterday about the big ass launch Frank Kern did. I have no affiliation with him what so ever except happy customer. Frank make over $5million yesterday, IN THIS ECONOMY selling a course.

He's also got another site where he sells a $47 course on training your dog. That site and course makes over ONE MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR for Frank..and the success of that is actually what drove him to create Internet Marketing products for the Biz Op/IM crowd.

Anyway, I just read that article and had to rant a little. I do hope some of you are still on the path towards financial independence, be that from trading, a bricks and mortar business, or "Internet Marketing". I can attest to the financial riches that are not only possible, but HONESTLY WITHIN ANYONES REACH if you sell your product on the Internet, and the also possible, but for a number of psychological reasons not always with in everyone's easy reach in the stock market as well. Ultimatly I've made multiple millions of dollars in both, honesty does require me, however, to admit that I've made more selling stuff on the Internet then I have trading.

I don't think that makes me a bad trader, If I'd never sold anything on the net Ive still made over a $1million trading too, but the combonation of the two has enriched my life greatly.

I'll add something of a disclaimer here for my ex wife and former business partner Toni Hansen. She of course still has her websites and she trades. Sadly for her, even though she has, in my opinion, among the very best products out there for traders, she is the type of person who could not sell ice in the middle of the desert. In her case the simple quality of her service is really all that sells it, and she makes a lot more trading then she does selling stuff. In my case though I've made about 75% more with online marketing versus trading, even though, as I said, both have paid me handsomely. I only added the disclaimer because a lot of people still associate her and I, and I don't want anything I'm posting here to effect her business in any way. She's doing her thing, and I do mine. I've actually offered to help her marketing stuff many times, but she's "not comfortable" selling...so she goes on. Anyway thats all.

Like I said though I do hope all of you continue to pursue your dreams. This recession is NO EXCUSE to not succeed. In fact, it's a great OPPORTUNITY because a lot of people have simply given up, they are not showing up and you can show up for them and get the business they would have had. My business have grown every single month versus the month before since October, regardless of what the economy is doing.

I hate to agree with stocky, but so much of the recession is mental. Obviously in the stock market ignoring it is retarded, and in business too..but don't let all of the negavity of the economy provide you with an excuse to not reach for your dreams.

Mike Dictka said this one morning on NFL countdown, and it's very profound..its the thought I'll leave you with.

What's done is done, we can't change what we did yesterday. None of us know's what the future might bring, or even if we will be alive to see it. We do have today though, and it's a real gift..which is why they call it the present.

Brandon
 
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