Speaker of the House is Vacated - What Next?

Good on Gaetz for doing what's right no matter what. I remember being really annoyed how McLarpy would answer questions from Maria Bartiromo about starting the impeachment already, how he would then launch into a dissertation about how we would know nothing about Bidens corruption if the house didn't get voted into majority last election. That wasn't her question idiot! And is totally irrelevant. It was clear he was sandbagging, and actually gaslighting on the issue.

Then, to find out he was making secret deals with Biden, whom he should be impeaching, about getting more borrowed funds to Zekenkies Kiev regime...total swamp creature.

America will be better off without his ilk and Gaetz deserves to go down in history for steering his nation away from the rocks at a critical moment.
 
Good1 said:
Good on Gaetz for doing what's right no matter what. I remember being really annoyed how McLarpy would answer questions from Maria Bartiromo about starting the impeachment already, how he would then launch into a dissertation about how we would know nothing about Bidens corruption if the house didn't get voted into majority last election. That wasn't her question idiot! And is totally irrelevant. It was clear he was sandbagging, and actually gaslighting on the issue.

Then, to find out he was making secret deals with Biden, whom he should be impeaching, about getting more borrowed funds to Zekenkies Kiev regime...total swamp creature.

America will be better off without his ilk and Gaetz deserves to go down in history for steering his nation away from the rocks at a critical moment.
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All Matt Gaetz cares about is banging teenage girls and trying to get elected the next governor of Florida. He does not give a shiat about the U.S. or the people -- even his own party members have pointed this out over and over again. Many GOP legislators want Gaetz out of the GOP.
 
Good1 said:
Good on Gaetz for doing what's right no matter what. I remember being really annoyed how McLarpy would answer questions from Maria Bartiromo about starting the impeachment already, how he would then launch into a dissertation about how we would know nothing about Bidens corruption if the house didn't get voted into majority last election. That wasn't her question idiot! And is totally irrelevant. It was clear he was sandbagging, and actually gaslighting on the issue.

Then, to find out he was making secret deals with Biden, whom he should be impeaching, about getting more borrowed funds to Zekenkies Kiev regime...total swamp creature.

America will be better off without his ilk and Gaetz deserves to go down in history for steering his nation away from the rocks at a critical moment.
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Kevin McCarthy is also, a war monger intent on wasting hundreds of billions on wars that the US should not be involved in. The Ukraine war has drained $115 billion from US coffers for a war that is long over with the Ukrainians having lost it. Yet, the US keeps this corpse going so that, the US arms manufacturers and their cohorts in Congress from both parties can all make billions of dollars from it? It is immoral and fueling the sky high inflation in the US. Disgusting on all levels.
 
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Jim Jordan is fast painting himself into a corner as against aiding Ukraine. If you ask me, this will most likely be the central issue in who will be the next speaker…

https://twitter.com/x/status/1709917299723923762
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Arguably he is against open-ended funding of Ukraine without any public discussion of the end goal.

I am as well, even though it has been established that I do not favor letting Putin advance in Ukraine or eastern Europe unchecked.

I do think that the west should vigorously help the Ukrainians to reach the sea of asov and cut off the land bridge. If there is to be a stalemate that is a better place to have it stalled out. That needs to be accomplished by March in my mind. The west has the means to accomplish that by then. If they don't then it is just part of the Biden plan to give Ukraine enough to not lose but not enough to really accomplish anything. So my goal is to see the land bridge severed by march. And then the Ukrainians and Europe can accomplish more with that if they want or not.

I also continue to be totally opposed to Nato membership for Ukraine. Although security agreements can be negotiated.

Acknowledging in advance the hate mail I get on this from people on both sides of the issue.
 
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TreeFrogTrader said:
Arguably he is against open-ended funding of Ukraine without any public discussion of the end goal.

I am as well, even though it has been established that I do not favor letting Putin advance in Ukraine or eastern Europe unchecked.

I do think that the west should vigorously help the Ukrainians to reach the sea of asov and cut off the land bridge. If there is to be a stalemate that is a better place to have it stalled out. That needs to be accomplished by March in my mind. The west has the means to accomplish that by then. If they don't then it is just part of the Biden plan to give Ukraine enough to not lose but not enough to really accomplish anything. So my goal is to see the land bridge severed by march. And then the Ukrainians and Europe can accomplish more with that if they want or not.

I also continue to be totally opposed to Nato membership for Ukraine. Although security agreements can be negotiated.

Acknowledging in advance the hate mail I get on this from people on both sides of the issue.
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That’s great and well thought through but not exactly Jordan’s position. Jordan likes to make the Ukraine funding argument under the terms of the American people don’t care about that and deflects to the border.

While accountability is good it’s nearly impossible to meet any true oversight. My take is when Jordan claims he is concerned about oversight and wants accounting it’s a red herring and back door to stop aiding Ukraine. I suspect many republicans in his caucus understand this as well and no I don’t believe the majority of the caucus support ending aid to Ukraine via of back door shenanigans.
 
TreeFrogTrader said:
Arguably he is against open-ended funding of Ukraine without any public discussion of the end goal.

I am as well, even though it has been established that I do not favor letting Putin advance in Ukraine or eastern Europe unchecked.

I do think that the west should vigorously help the Ukrainians to reach the sea of asov and cut off the land bridge. If there is to be a stalemate that is a better place to have it stalled out. That needs to be accomplished by March in my mind. The west has the means to accomplish that by then. If they don't then it is just part of the Biden plan to give Ukraine enough to not lose but not enough to really accomplish anything. So my goal is to see the land bridge severed by march. And then the Ukrainians and Europe can accomplish more with that if they want or not.

I also continue to be totally opposed to Nato membership for Ukraine. Although security agreements can be negotiated.

Acknowledging in advance the hate mail I get on this from people on both sides of the issue.
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The US and NATO by escalating this Ukraine war actually, forces the Russians to drive deeper and deeper into Ukraine. Those long range missiles will encourage the Russians to drive all the way to the Polish border to neutralize them permanently and shutoff the supply of long range missiles. And Ukraine has lost this war, 450,000 dead Ukrainian soldiers so far, wounded in the hundreds of thousands. Ukraine is not going to get back any territories but, losing more territories, the longer this war drags on. Putin will have 1,000,000 Russian troops if he decides to totally, take Ukraine over. He has been quietly, calling up more Russian troops. That looks more and more likely as Ukraine refuses to negotiate. Russia will just take the whole country and there would be no Ukraine left. And if NATO and the US go into Ukraine, expect lots of body bags going back to the US and Europe. Russia will attack those NATO troops the moment they set foot into Ukraine. US has 40,000 troops, Poland probably, has atleast, 30,000 troops on the border. They will face probably 500,000 or even 1,000,000 Russian troops if it comes to that.
 
smallfil said:
The US and NATO by escalating this Ukraine war actually, forces the Russians to drive deeper and deeper into Ukraine. Those long range missiles will encourage the Russians to drive all the way to the Polish border to neutralize them permanently and shutoff the supply of long range missiles. And Ukraine has lost this war, 450,000 dead Ukrainian soldiers so far, wounded in the hundreds of thousands. Ukraine is not going to get back any territories but, losing more territories, the longer this war drags on. Putin will have 1,000,000 Russian troops if he decides to totally, take Ukraine over. He has been quietly, calling up more Russian troops. That looks more and more likely as Ukraine refuses to negotiate. Russia will just take the whole country and there would be no Ukraine left. And if NATO and the US go into Ukraine, expect lots of body bags going back to the US and Europe. Russia will attack those NATO troops the moment they set foot into Ukraine. US has 40,000 troops, Poland probably, has atleast, 30,000 troops on the border. They will face probably 500,000 or even 1,000,000 Russian troops if it comes to that.
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You are a fucking moron.There are not 450,000 dead Ukrainian soldiers so far.


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smallfil said:
The US and NATO by escalating this Ukraine war actually, forces the Russians to drive deeper and deeper into Ukraine. Those long range missiles will encourage the Russians to drive all the way to the Polish border to neutralize them permanently and shutoff the supply of long range missiles. And Ukraine has lost this war, 450,000 dead Ukrainian soldiers so far, wounded in the hundreds of thousands. Ukraine is not going to get back any territories but, losing more territories, the longer this war drags on. Putin will have 1,000,000 Russian troops if he decides to totally, take Ukraine over. He has been quietly, calling up more Russian troops. That looks more and more likely as Ukraine refuses to negotiate. Russia will just take the whole country and there would be no Ukraine left. And if NATO and the US go into Ukraine, expect lots of body bags going back to the US and Europe. Russia will attack those NATO troops the moment they set foot into Ukraine. US has 40,000 troops, Poland probably, has atleast, 30,000 troops on the border. They will face probably 500,000 or even 1,000,000 Russian troops if it comes to that.
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Yes I can't even start describing the disgust I have for any Rino that has washed Shawn Hannities balls along with the mostly Democrats who have supported the intentionally botched diplomacy over the last decade so they can gamble pubic funds on personal hatred gratification...moving those funds offshore into a black hole without oversight, doubling down on losses like the degenerate gamblers that they are . For that reason alone McLarpy should be out, even more that he tried to make a secret deal to fuel their fevered gambling addictions with the Democrats, dealing, when he should have been impeaching
 
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