SP 500 PE Ratio 09-08-09

even if the P/E were favorable, I still think it would be questionable in an economy that required

- a trillion bailout for banks

- another trillion in stimulus

- cash for clunkers car buyer subsidy

- 1.8 trillion dollar annual deficit

just to stay afloat - it suggest that the true demand isnt there, it's all artificial
 
Quote from swtrader:

even if the P/E were favorable, I still think it would be questionable in an economy that required

- a trillion bailout for banks

- another trillion in stimulus

- cash for clunkers car buyer subsidy

- 1.8 trillion dollar annual deficit

just to stay afloat - it suggest that the true demand isnt there, it's all artificial

I agree, I just wonder when the market is going to come to terms with this.

Im certin the Fed is feeding Banks with free money to prop everyhing up. Pulling demand forward is going to create a huge vacuum on the other side of all this.

But the goverment may just lie about the numbers and keep telling everyone things are getting better. I mean they have gone this far.
 
Quote from Rickshaw Man:

Im certin the Fed is feeding Banks with free money to prop everyhing up. Pulling demand forward is going to create a huge vacuum on the other side of all this.

But the goverment may just lie about the numbers and keep telling everyone things are getting better. I mean they have gone this far.

That is the the whole story in a few lines. Good post!
 
Rickshaw i just looked at a 100 big co's earnings and i almost fell down. at least 70 HAVE HAD EST CUTS THE LAST 4 MONTHS FOR 2009 AND 2010 YET THERE STOCKS KEEP SKYING WITH MANY UP 5-10 FOLD. go look at ests for fdx,utx,dd,ge,ups,cat . its the biggest scam on earth. but its the mkts job to sniff out the fraud and punish it. if it doesn't then it doesn't. people all know whats happened is a scam and lie but nobody cares as long as they're making money. those are the facts.
 
Quote from jnorty:

Rickshaw i just looked at a 100 big co's earnings and i almost fell down. at least 70 HAVE HAD EST CUTS THE LAST 4 MONTHS FOR 2009 AND 2010 YET THERE STOCKS KEEP SKYING WITH MANY UP 5-10 FOLD. go look at ests for fdx,utx,dd,ge,ups,cat . its the biggest scam on earth. but its the mkts job to sniff out the fraud and punish it. if it doesn't then it doesn't. people all know whats happened is a scam and lie but nobody cares as long as they're making money. those are the facts.

The market keys off of 2010 estimated earnings at this stage in the year, not 2009. 2009 is just about 3/4 in the bag. Unfortunately, some companies have run up so much that they are apparently beginning to price off of their "earnings power" rather than 2010 now.

The P/E ratio in the first post must be LTM basis and includes adjustments (it's as reported).
 
Quote from montereytrader:

you guys have no clue. we are in the middle of jobless high PE recovery - nothing wrong with that.



:D

Margins look great when you cut 15% of your labor. lolololol
 
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