South Africa ....a country going to hell !!!

Quote from Nashequilibrium:

Post your facts......thats all i ask!

Facts about how countries have been run down by corrupt goverments in the past?

You might want to study a little history, I don't have the time....
 
Quote from Optionpro007:

Many people look at the color of the skin to reason an outcome, be it good or bad.

But this is not about skin color. This is about dishonesty taking hold of a culture at every single level, moving like a virus through all it's institutions and folk behaviour.

Unfortunately history doesn't support your case for continued prosperity (for the masses) in such a state.

You're exactly right, color doesn't portend the outcome of a nation. In my opinion the common morals and virtues, or lack thereof, make up the soul of a nation and foretells its ultimate destiny.
 
Quote from Dragomir3:

If Whites hadn't colonized Africa, other races would have done so. Blacks were living in prehistoric conditions and would have been unable to prevent anyone from annexing their continent. Even today, 200 well-equiped White soldiers could conquer all of Africa in a few months.

The problem with blacks is that they want to live in a modern society, disregarding their racial incapacity of doing anything else than climbing in trees and running through the jungle. They have no doctors, no scientists, nothing. I doubt the extremely small amount of intelligent Africans truly consider their people capable of competing with the rest of the world.

Blacks with no White admixture have an average IQ of 60 - 68. That's about the same as a White person with down's syndrom. The only reason Blacks make up a significant percentage of the world population is because of Western aid. Without our aid, Blacks would end up starving and eating each other.

LOL.......lol.........lol......rolling over with laughter! I guess i dont need to involve my self with this debate anymore....this level of debate actually does not belong on ET....or well...cheers!
 
Quote from mtwokay:

You're exactly right, color doesn't portend the outcome of a nation. In my opinion the common morals and virtues, or lack thereof, make up the soul of a nation and foretells its ultimate destiny.

Exactly.
 
Quote from Nashequilibrium:

LOL.......lol.........lol......rolling over with laughter! I guess i dont need to involve my self with this debate anymore....this level of debate actually does not belong on ET....or well...cheers!
Yes, his post borders on the insane.

We can all have good laughs here ... but you most definitely would be amazed at the number of people, across all walks of life, who's belief system is not that disimilar from his own.

These conditions are bought about because this is a human problem, this is what human beings are, this is how human beings act.
 
Quote from mtwokay:

You're exactly right, color doesn't portend the outcome of a nation. In my opinion the common morals and virtues, or lack thereof, make up the soul of a nation and foretells its ultimate destiny.
Nice post, but you aren't correct.

Human history is built on aggression and violence. So your post should read:

"It is the controlled level of agression and violence, or lack thereof, that foretells its ultimate desitny."
 
Quote from Dragomir3:
Blacks with no White admixture have an average IQ of 60 - 68. That's about the same as a White person with down's syndrom. The only reason Blacks make up a significant percentage of the world population is because of Western aid. Without our aid, Blacks would end up starving and eating each other.

Hey dumbass Lynn is a self-serving hack who gets the correlation backwards. People have low IQs because they are poor, not the other way around. Plus he cherry picks. Plus this: "Who can doubt that the Caucasoids and the Mongoloids are the only two races that have made any significant contributions to civilization?"

Which makes him a Nazi, just like you.
 
Quote from hulkgogan:

Hey dumbass Lynn is a self-serving hack who gets the correlation backwards. People have low IQs because they are poor, not the other way around.
While well intentioned, your post is not correct either.

I come from extreme poverty, but I have an IQ of over 145. Like I said before, these conditions exist because of desire for power, greed, hatred ... you know, all that bad stuff that the religious and holy men (real one's, not fakirs :D) preach against.

These conditions exist becasue this is how people are, have always been, and probably will continue to be for the foreseeable future.

I definitely don't have a solution, I just try not to return hatred with hatred, but that's pretty much impossible, so I just focus on achieving my goals in life and say fuck the rest. :cool:
Quote from hulkgogan:

Plus he cherry picks. Plus this: "Who can doubt that the Caucasoids and the Mongoloids are the only two races that have made any significant contributions to civilization?"

Which makes him a Nazi, just like you.
However, this part of your post is right on target. Every civilization of man has had their turn at the helm. I've been to L'Hermitage in St. Petersburg, Russia and seen works of art of great african civilizations, so that proves for me what I've already known all along.

As every history buff knows, the dominant civilizations re-writes history to make it appear that they are the beginning of everything, but we all know this is not true.
 
These conversations about race, religion and politics always become so heated. This is in part because we are not talking in person, this is being done over the internet, so people say things and take liberties that they might not in person ... but like I said before, you guys (and any ladies reading this) would be amazed at what people will say and do when they think you aren't listening ... or that you won't go around and tell everyone else.

As far as one race being more savage than any other ... well, take a good look at your history books (way too many atrocities to cite here), and you will see that savagery seems to go hand in hand with what people really are (despite what they think they are).

Just in case any readers think I am defending africans (or african-americans for that matter) and their behavior, I am not.

Every person of color knows the saying "your own will do you worse than they will", and the level of violence of african-americans amongst themselves is definitely like being in any war.
 
Quote from MandelbrotSet:

While well intentioned, your post is not correct either.

I come from extreme poverty, but I have an IQ of over 145.


Sorry mate you're wrong. Pointing out ancedotal evidence is not science. This isn't even a controversal point in social sciences. There's the social-economic bias in IQ tests identified like 40 years ago, then there the actual material stuff like nutrition, education, culture etc. The point: take 100 kids born in Seattle and switch them at birth with 100 kids in Darfur, then measure their respective IQs at 15. Then understand that the IQ difference has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with environment.
 
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