Guys like OP should be punished for repetitively posting misinformation online. Enough of a large cash fine or even imprisonment to dissuade him and others from doing this.
Sorry, another Covid thread :-)
- Thread starter BKR88
- Start date
Guys like OP should be punished for repetitively posting misinformation online. Enough of a large cash fine or even imprisonment to dissuade him and others from doing this.
Completely agree
You are apparently unaware that your chance of developing Covid associated myocarditis from a Covid infection is significantly greater than developing myocarditis from any of the vaccines. There is some question of whether one particular vaccine, I believe it was the Johnson & Johnson, was associated with a slightly higher than expected incidence of myocarditis in vaccinated young males who had not contracted a clinically significant case of Covid infection.
However these were, in virtually all reported cases, easily treated and quickly resolve. The danger is from Covid associated myocarditis in non-vaccinated patients who are hospitalized with severe Covid infection.
You may learn something you didn't know if you read the NIH Pub Med article I gave a link to.
from:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9785561/
Title:
COVID-19 Associated Myocarditis Clinical Outcomes among Hospitalized Patients in the United States: A Propensity Matched Analysis of National Inpatient Sample
(bold and underlining in the body of following Absract is mine.)
Abstract
Coronavirus-19 (COVID-19), preliminarily a respiratory virus, can affect multiple organs, including the heart. Myocarditis is a well-known complication among COVID-19 infections, with limited large-scale studies evaluating outcomes associated with COVID-19-related Myocarditis. We used the National Inpatient Sample (NIS) database to compare COVID-19 patients with and without Myocarditis. A total of 1,659,040 patients were included in the study: COVID-19 with Myocarditis (n = 6,455, 0.4%) and COVID-19 without Myocarditis (n = 1,652,585, 99.6%). The primary outcome was in-hospital mortality. Secondary outcomes included mechanical ventilation, vasopressor use, sudden cardiac arrest, cardiogenic shock, acute kidney injury requiring hemodialysis, length of stay, health care utilization costs, and disposition. We conducted a secondary analysis with propensity matching to confirm results obtained by traditional multivariate analysis. COVID-19 patients with Myocarditis had significantly higher in-hospital mortality compared to COVID-19 patients without Myocarditis (30.5% vs. 13.1%, adjusted OR: 3 [95% CI 2.1–4.2], p < 0.001). This cohort also had significantly increased cardiogenic shock, acute kidney injury requiring hemodialysis, sudden cardiac death, required more mechanical ventilation and vasopressor support and higher hospitalization cost. Vaccination and more research for treatment strategies will be critical for reducing worse outcomes in patients with COVID-19-related Myocarditis.
Keywords: COVID-19, myocarditis, mortality, prevalence, complications, United States, NIS
In summary, everyone who possibly can be should be vaccinated for Covid -19 preferably with either the Pfizer or Moderna mRNA vaccine.
So many have been vaccinated at this point that those eligible who nevertheless refuse to get vaccinated are free riders on the rest of us, since those of us with a full course of Covid vaccination are responsible for greatly decreasing the opportunity of the non-vaccinated to be infected.
Garbage which doesn’t say what you think it says.
COVID infection doesn’t change myocarditis incidence. BULLSHIT mRNA biologicals do.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35456309/
“We did not observe an increased incidence of neither pericarditis nor myocarditis in adult patients recovering from COVID-19 infection.”
A new study making the rounds. HORRIBLE.
Pull these garbage experimental drugs off the market immediately.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10373639/
vax-induced myocarditis in adolescents is neither mild or transient!
10-12mo followup on 40 injured adolescents show large number have long-term heart damage & potential effect on cardiac functional reserve during stress!
Pull these garbage experimental drugs off the market immediately.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10373639/
vax-induced myocarditis in adolescents is neither mild or transient!
10-12mo followup on 40 injured adolescents show large number have long-term heart damage & potential effect on cardiac functional reserve during stress!
Do not be an idiot...
Most countries have their own type of Covid vaccine. Further, many types of Covid vaccines approved in one country are not approved in another country. China falls into that category.
https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/
Also, you need to measure the incidence of Myocarditis in each country for comparison. If one country's numbers are not similar to another country's numbers for Myocarditis...make sure you're comparing the same vaccines and not one vaccine against a different vaccine.
There are a few idiots here at ET without any understanding there are +50 approved vaccines in the world and each country only uses some vaccines while not approving the others that are approved in another country.
1st News Alert: With all the +50 vaccines together...Myocarditis is still < 1% for vaccinated global population and its still > 1% for not vaccinated global population.
Now do your research and compare Myocarditis adverse events prior to the Covid Pandemic so that you do not continue looking like an idiot. Seriously, I had Myocarditis twice as a youth. Treatment back then in the early 80's for youth athletes with Myocarditis...
2nd News Alert: It's estimated that 30% of the global population had a mild Covid infection (e.g. barely a cough, 1 - 2 day fever) and did not know it/never Covid tested. Simply, some individuals had a mild case of Myocarditis and did not know it.
The above is very problematic because if those individuals then blindly took a Covid vaccine without being tested for a Covid infection (MOST DID SUCH) and without a complete physical (MOST DID SUCH)...
If they develop Myocarditis a 2nd time after vaccination...there's a higher risk for severe Myocarditis that requires hospitalization.
In fact, all known patients that have died from Myocarditis...overwhelming they were not vaccinated and a small percentage (less than 1% of the global vaccinated population) were vaccinated.
There's no excuse to be a continuous idiot about the Pandemic (it's over), Covid or vaccines unless its part of your character especially while knowing people getting vaccinated today...fell off the map...it's now very low.
I have degrees in Immunology & Genetics along with my youth history of a Myocarditis infection...I made damn sure I was tested for Covid and had a complete physical with blood tests prior to vaccination to ensure I was suitable for a Covid vaccination. MOST IN THE WORLD did not.
P.S. Getting a Covid vaccine without being tested for a Covid infection even if you were sick several months ago prior to your Covid vaccination...your health risks jumps off the map.
It's the same with any other type of known vaccine (e.g. chickenpox, polio) to mankind.
wrbtrader
Most countries have their own type of Covid vaccine. Further, many types of Covid vaccines approved in one country are not approved in another country. China falls into that category.
https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/
Also, you need to measure the incidence of Myocarditis in each country for comparison. If one country's numbers are not similar to another country's numbers for Myocarditis...make sure you're comparing the same vaccines and not one vaccine against a different vaccine.
There are a few idiots here at ET without any understanding there are +50 approved vaccines in the world and each country only uses some vaccines while not approving the others that are approved in another country.
1st News Alert: With all the +50 vaccines together...Myocarditis is still < 1% for vaccinated global population and its still > 1% for not vaccinated global population.
Now do your research and compare Myocarditis adverse events prior to the Covid Pandemic so that you do not continue looking like an idiot. Seriously, I had Myocarditis twice as a youth. Treatment back then in the early 80's for youth athletes with Myocarditis...
- Doctors only changed your diet (nutrition), not allowed to do sports for a month and they gave you antibiotics. For severe cases that require hospitalization...standard intravenous drugs were used. There were cases of rare deaths from Myocarditis back in the 80's.
- The problem with Myocarditis in countries outside North America...many patients did not have access to a hospital for proper (easy treatment) care.
2nd News Alert: It's estimated that 30% of the global population had a mild Covid infection (e.g. barely a cough, 1 - 2 day fever) and did not know it/never Covid tested. Simply, some individuals had a mild case of Myocarditis and did not know it.
The above is very problematic because if those individuals then blindly took a Covid vaccine without being tested for a Covid infection (MOST DID SUCH) and without a complete physical (MOST DID SUCH)...
If they develop Myocarditis a 2nd time after vaccination...there's a higher risk for severe Myocarditis that requires hospitalization.
In fact, all known patients that have died from Myocarditis...overwhelming they were not vaccinated and a small percentage (less than 1% of the global vaccinated population) were vaccinated.
There's no excuse to be a continuous idiot about the Pandemic (it's over), Covid or vaccines unless its part of your character especially while knowing people getting vaccinated today...fell off the map...it's now very low.
I have degrees in Immunology & Genetics along with my youth history of a Myocarditis infection...I made damn sure I was tested for Covid and had a complete physical with blood tests prior to vaccination to ensure I was suitable for a Covid vaccination. MOST IN THE WORLD did not.
- Guess what, the test results determine Pfizer and J&J vaccines were not suitable for me while Moderna was suitable for me. I'm fully vaccinated...boosted once with Moderna.
P.S. Getting a Covid vaccine without being tested for a Covid infection even if you were sick several months ago prior to your Covid vaccination...your health risks jumps off the map.
It's the same with any other type of known vaccine (e.g. chickenpox, polio) to mankind.
wrbtrader
Last edited:
Now you're just posting wild claims at odds with your own links.
You may not know myocarditis is more prevalent in the general population among male adolescents, whether vaccinated for Covid or Not. However, there is a putative association with Covid vaccination in adolescents as the incidence is slightly elevated in those vaccinated, although it is still a rare occurrence.
This is a much better paper than the one you linked to: But you'd actually have to read it to find the quote below: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9555956/
Consistent with our findings, a recent report comparing classic myocarditis to COVID-19 vaccine-related myocarditis in individuals aged younger than 21 years observed similar clinical presentations and found COVID-19 vaccine-related myocarditis had better outcomes and a more rapid cardiac recovery.28
Again, the real risk is in not being vaccinated and then acquiring a serious Covid infection which requires hospitalization. In those patients there is a significant incidence of Myocarditis developing, and it then becomes a very serious complication of Covid infection..
The new Covid mRNA vaccines are among the safest most effective vaccines yet developed. It's just plain foolish not to take advantage of the opportunity to get vaccinated. Why take a chance on getting a serious Covid infection when it is so easily prevented?
We are in living in the era of "truthiness". Those not equipped by training or intellect to tell whether a statement they read or hear is likely true or not are sitting ducks for all sorts of wild claims. Even among peer reviewed, primary journal literature, quality varies widely. Reader beware.
Last edited:
What a complete load of garbage. To call these the safest and most effective vaccines in history is clear evidence that you aren’t paying attention.
Your garbage therapeutics don’t stop transmission or infection or hospitalization or death.
The risk is in taking the bullshit drug - why get an increased risk of myocarditis (or thrombosis or the serious known side effects or serious unknown side effects) when I can just get natural infection and let my immune system fight it. The boosted are the worst off with the most compromised immune systems.
You must not be watching what’s happening with Big Harma testimony in Australia right now. Devastating. Good to see you all in on the fraud. Keep boosting!!
Huh???
I don't want to keep embarrassing you, but the paper you linked to says:
The ECG results were abnormal, with ST-segment or T-wave abnormalities in 31 (78%) patients at presentation and normalized in all at latest follow-up.
What's really striking, and indicates how mild these adolescent myocarditis cases were, is that most cases in the study were so mild they were, according to the paper, "asymptomatic" and could only be detected via "ECG" or MRI.
This paper was from a small study and published somewhere on line. There is no indication that it was even peer reviewed. (There is no peer review process for some open access, on-line publications.) Had I been a reviewer, I would have recommended it's publication only after revision, as it fails to mention which of the many Covid vaccines had been administered to the 40 adolescent, Hong Cong subjects in the study. (At least I could find no mention of this, could you?)
You must be aware of course that there are many Covid vaccines other than the Moderna and Pfizer mRNA vaccines, and China was not using Western developed vaccines. Most likely those Hong Cong Adolescents had been administered China's own vaccine, which reports indicate is not as effective as the Western mRNA vaccines.
There is a large number of vaccines being used. All of the vaccines, other than the mRNA vaccines developed in the U.S. and Germany make use of various conventional vaccine technologies and some have gone through somewhat different clinical evaluation then those used in the Western democracies. None of these other vaccines have been shown to be as effective as the new mRNA vaccines. I don't know the reason why China did not have access to the mRNA vaccines. Perhaps they did, but chose not to use them. Who knows? Do you?
Last edited:
Did you purposely Ignore the abnormal LGE?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10373639/
So long as none of these kids is athletic, it’s all good!
Don’t have to worry about being a sports star, little Jimmy, you did your part and got mostly undetectable myocarditis which would have likely resulted in a cardiac event within a few years. Thanks for keeping us safe!!
imagine the level of delusion required to try and convince people that any heart damage in children from a useless dangerous medical experiment is acceptable??
The research discusses mRNA vaccines so it’s safe to say they were mRNA poison.
The mRNA ‘vaccines’ are very effective at killing and maiming people. Not effective at stopping transmission infection hospitalization or death.
This is why your prized ‘vaccines’ are at such pathetic uptake for children - most people wised up quickly. The rest drove their poor children into the arms of a failed experimental drug with a terrible short term side effect profile and unknown long term.
Those are the worst most idiotic parents in the world. And they deserve the agony that’s coming to them.
You can repeat the lie of ‘effective’ over and over but most of the world has clued in by now.
Only A small subset of retards continue to cling onto the notion that this was a successful moment in medicine. LOL
Last edited: