Sorry, another Covid thread :-)
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So once again the nutcase anti-vaxxer crowd is trying to claim someone’s cause of death is the vaccine when there is no whatsoever that her cause of death has any relation to the Covid vaccine.
This is simply cruel abuse by anti-vaxxers to this woman’s family and friends in an attempt to push a false narrative.
For every pro-vaxxer that dies suddenly...I can waste my time and post an anti-vaxxer who died suddenly and was outspoken against vaccines on social media.
Fortunately, I'm not a ghoul troll that needs to do that online at a forum for traders, and it's a waste of my time to dig through the gutter to be a dickhead asshole like that. If someone knows where to look...some websites maintain a list of anti-vaxxers that have died suddenly too...
Those websites are dickheads too like the websites that keep track of pro-vaxxers that die suddenly. Mental illness on both sides of the track.
People have been dying suddenly while healthy or not healthy for whatever reason for hundreds of years and will continue to die suddenly for the next hundreds of years regardless if they're not vaccinated or vaccinated.
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I wanted to thank all the NPC's who support the mainstream narrative! I would no doubt simply believe people like:
Mike Yeadon, PhD, former chief scientist at Pfizer for 10 years and an expert in drug safety.
Robert Malone, PhD, inventor of the mRNA technology the injections are based on.
Both of these guys, and 17,000 other medical researchers and scientists say:
DON'T GET VAXXED!!
But we have anonymous alphabet internet muppets to correct us.
Thank you so much. You guys are no doubt right, and Fauci assuredly has no conflicts of interest. That pesky royalty check he gets from NIH patents on mRNA has no bearing, I'm sure.
Mike Yeadon, PhD, former chief scientist at Pfizer for 10 years and an expert in drug safety.
Robert Malone, PhD, inventor of the mRNA technology the injections are based on.
Both of these guys, and 17,000 other medical researchers and scientists say:
DON'T GET VAXXED!!
But we have anonymous alphabet internet muppets to correct us.
Thank you so much. You guys are no doubt right, and Fauci assuredly has no conflicts of interest. That pesky royalty check he gets from NIH patents on mRNA has no bearing, I'm sure.
So Robert Malone, self-proclaimed inventor of mRNA technology, is the source of your claims. Even his fellow joint patent holders stated he had nearly nothing to do with inventing mRNA technology -- despite the endless claims from himself & his wife.
Likewise Mike Yeardon is a complete nutcase -- with his numerous claims being revealed as completely false.
Both of these clowns have been covered in numerous previous posts. Anyone using them as a reference for fabricated anti-vax narrative is just as demented as these two idiots.
As of February 15th, 2024...
I wanted to thank all the leading physicians who supported Covid Vaccines when their patients requested more information about vaccines before deciding to be vaccinated:
As medical professionals who treat infants, children, adolescents, and adults through the end of life, we actively work to dispel harmful misconceptions about the COVID-19 vaccine, as well as other recommended immunizations. We are trusted sources of information in our communities who counsel our patients on the importance of getting vaccinated against COVID-19.
COVID-19 vaccines are one of the most effective public health tools we have to prevent spread of the virus, hospitalizations and death. All recommended vaccines that are used in the U.S. are subject to rigorous testing, extensive clinical trials and global efforts to measure their success rates.
Amid a harsh respiratory virus season, increasing vaccine confidence and uptake is imperative. Lives depend on it. Unfortunately, we continue to see a concerning decrease in vaccine confidence and an increase in dangerous misinformation that undermines public health.
Now more than ever, we need leaders from health care, government, and our communities to come together to encourage vaccination.
American Academy of Family Physicians
Founded in 1947, the AAFP represents 129,600 physicians and medical students nationwide. It is the largest medical society devoted solely to primary care. Family physicians conduct approximately one in five office visits -- that’s 192 million visits annually or 48 percent more than the next most visited medical specialty. Today, family physicians provide more care for America’s underserved and rural populations than any other medical specialty. Family medicine’s cornerstone is an ongoing, personal patient-physician relationship focused on integrated care. To learn more about the specialty of family medicine and the AAFP's positions on issues and clinical care, visit www.aafp.org. For information about health care, health conditions and wellness, please visit the AAFP’s consumer website, www.familydoctor.org.
American Academy of Pediatrics
The American Academy of Pediatrics is an organization of 67,000 primary care pediatricians, pediatric medical subspecialists and pediatric surgical specialists dedicated to the health, safety and well-being of infants, children, adolescents and young adults. For more information, visit www.aap.org and follow us on Twitter @AmerAcadPeds.
American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) is the nation’s leading group of physicians providing evidence-based obstetric and gynecologic care. As a private, voluntary, nonprofit membership organization of more than 60,000 members, ACOG strongly advocates for equitable, exceptional, and respectful care for all women and people in need of obstetric and gynecologic care; maintains the highest standards of clinical practice and continuing education of its members; promotes patient education; and increases awareness among its members and the public of the changing issues facing patients and their families and communities. www.acog.org.
American College of Physicians
The American College of Physicians is the largest medical specialty organization in the United States with members in more than 145 countries worldwide. ACP membership includes 161,000 internal medicine physicians, related subspecialists, and medical students. Internal medicine physicians are specialists who apply scientific knowledge and clinical expertise to the diagnosis, treatment, and compassionate care of adults across the spectrum from health to complex illness. Follow ACP on X (formerly Twitter), Instagram, and Facebook.
American Osteopathic Association
The American Osteopathic Association (AOA) represents more than 186,000 osteopathic physicians (DOs) and osteopathic medical students; promotes public health; encourages scientific research; and serves as the primary certifying body for DOs. To learn more about DOs and the osteopathic philosophy of medicine, visit www.osteopathic.org.
American Psychiatric Association
The American Psychiatric Association, founded in 1844, is the oldest medical association in the country. The APA is also the largest psychiatric association in the world with more than 38,000 physician members specializing in the diagnosis, treatment, prevention and research of mental illnesses. APA’s vision is to ensure access to quality psychiatric diagnosis and treatment. For more information, please visit www.psychiatry.org.
https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/ne...oups-unequivocally-support-covid-19-vaccines/
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Report spotlights 52 US doctors who posted potentially harmful COVID misinformation online
Vaccine untruths, conspiracy theories
A mixed-methods study published yesterday in JAMA Network Open finds that 52 physicians practicing in 28 different specialties across the United States propagated COVID-19 misinformation on vaccines, masks, and conspiracy theories on social media and other online platforms from January 2021 to December 2022.
Researchers at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst used Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidelines on COVID-19 prevention and treatment to define misinformation. They also performed structured searches of high-use social media platforms (Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Parler, and YouTube) and news outlets (the New York Times and National Public Radio) to identify physician-communicated misinformation.
Twitter was the most common platform, where 71.2% of the doctors spread misinformation and had a median of 67,400 followers.
All 52 physicians who spread misleading COVID-19 information were or had been licensed to practice medicine in the United States except for two, who were researchers, and nearly a third were affiliated with groups with a history of spreading medical misinformation, such as America's Frontline Doctors. The most common specialty was primary care, at 36%.
Of the 52 physicians, 80.8% posted false vaccine information, 76.9% passed on more than one type of misinformation in more than one category, 38.5% posted falsities on at least five platforms, and 76.9% appeared on five or more third-party online platforms such as news outlets. Twitter was the most common platform, where 71.2% of the doctors spread misinformation and had a median of 67,400 followers.
Major themes were disputing COVID-19 vaccine safety and effectiveness, promoting non–evidence-based medical treatments or those lacking Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval for this indication (eg, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine), disputing mask effectiveness, and other unproven claims on topics such as the origin of SARS-CoV-2, government coverups, drug company profit motivations, and other conspiracy theories. Many posts were based on patient anecdotes and data from low-quality medical journals.
Promoting fear and distrust of the vaccine and reliance on "natural" immunity were frequent subthemes. Examples of the unfounded claims were that the vaccine causes infertility, permanently damages the immune system, and increases the risk of chronic disease for children and overstated the risk of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle).
"A common approach included circulating counts of positive case rates by vaccination status, claiming that most positive cases were among vaccinated individuals," the researchers wrote. "This claim is technically true but misleading, as many more people are vaccinated, and the proportion of unvaccinated people who are infected is much higher."
Falsehoods may have contributed to a third of US deaths
The authors predicted that the elimination of safeguards against misinformation on Twitter (now X) and the absence of federal laws regulating medical misinformation on social media will lead to the persistence—or even an increase in—the spread of non–evidence-based information.
The authors said that while medical misinformation was spread long before the COVID-19 pandemic, the internet boosts the reach and speed of dissemination, potentially exacerbating the consequences.
They noted that about a third of the more than 1.1 million reported COVID-19 deaths in the United States as of January 18, 2023, were considered preventable if public health recommendations such as vaccination and physical distancing had been followed.
"COVID-19 misinformation has been spread by many people on social medial platforms, but misinformation spread by physicians may be particularly pernicious," the authors wrote. "This study's findings suggest a need for rigorous evaluation of harm that may be caused by physicians, who hold a uniquely trusted position in society, propagating misinformation; ethical and legal guidelines for propagation of misinformation are needed."
'Do your own research' rooted in conspiracy theories
A study conducted by two University of Wisconsin (UW) and University of Michigan (UM) researchers suggests that the promotion of "doing your own research" (DYOR) rather than relying on evidence-based COVID-19 information may reflect anti-expert attitudes instead of beliefs about the importance of critically evaluating data and sources.
The research was published in the Harvard Kennedy School's Misinformation Review.
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19...tentially-harmful-covid-misinformation-online
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Seriously, this thread can go on forever...anti-vaxxers post their opinions against vaccines and pro-vaxxers post their opinions supporting vaccines.
It makes no difference. People will do their research and then make their own decisions. It is no different than deciding who will be your family physician, which city to live in, which foods to eat, and who to vote for in an election.
The hilarious aspect, idiots in this thread who are against pharmaceutical companies...support the same pharmaceutical companies that make a drug that improves the life of a friend, improves the life of a loved one, or improves their own life.
#hypocrisy
wrbtrader
I wanted to thank all the leading physicians who supported Covid Vaccines when their patients requested more information about vaccines before deciding to be vaccinated:
These organizations, representing nearly +600,000 physicians, medical residents, and medical students, accept the large body of evidence that makes clear that COVID-19 vaccines are safe, are effective, and save lives.
We urge members of Congress to acknowledge the overwhelming evidence-based science and recognize how COVID-19 vaccines protect and save millions of lives.
As medical professionals who treat infants, children, adolescents, and adults through the end of life, we actively work to dispel harmful misconceptions about the COVID-19 vaccine, as well as other recommended immunizations. We are trusted sources of information in our communities who counsel our patients on the importance of getting vaccinated against COVID-19.
COVID-19 vaccines are one of the most effective public health tools we have to prevent spread of the virus, hospitalizations and death. All recommended vaccines that are used in the U.S. are subject to rigorous testing, extensive clinical trials and global efforts to measure their success rates.
Amid a harsh respiratory virus season, increasing vaccine confidence and uptake is imperative. Lives depend on it. Unfortunately, we continue to see a concerning decrease in vaccine confidence and an increase in dangerous misinformation that undermines public health.
Now more than ever, we need leaders from health care, government, and our communities to come together to encourage vaccination.
American Academy of Family Physicians
Founded in 1947, the AAFP represents 129,600 physicians and medical students nationwide. It is the largest medical society devoted solely to primary care. Family physicians conduct approximately one in five office visits -- that’s 192 million visits annually or 48 percent more than the next most visited medical specialty. Today, family physicians provide more care for America’s underserved and rural populations than any other medical specialty. Family medicine’s cornerstone is an ongoing, personal patient-physician relationship focused on integrated care. To learn more about the specialty of family medicine and the AAFP's positions on issues and clinical care, visit www.aafp.org. For information about health care, health conditions and wellness, please visit the AAFP’s consumer website, www.familydoctor.org.
American Academy of Pediatrics
The American Academy of Pediatrics is an organization of 67,000 primary care pediatricians, pediatric medical subspecialists and pediatric surgical specialists dedicated to the health, safety and well-being of infants, children, adolescents and young adults. For more information, visit www.aap.org and follow us on Twitter @AmerAcadPeds.
American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) is the nation’s leading group of physicians providing evidence-based obstetric and gynecologic care. As a private, voluntary, nonprofit membership organization of more than 60,000 members, ACOG strongly advocates for equitable, exceptional, and respectful care for all women and people in need of obstetric and gynecologic care; maintains the highest standards of clinical practice and continuing education of its members; promotes patient education; and increases awareness among its members and the public of the changing issues facing patients and their families and communities. www.acog.org.
American College of Physicians
The American College of Physicians is the largest medical specialty organization in the United States with members in more than 145 countries worldwide. ACP membership includes 161,000 internal medicine physicians, related subspecialists, and medical students. Internal medicine physicians are specialists who apply scientific knowledge and clinical expertise to the diagnosis, treatment, and compassionate care of adults across the spectrum from health to complex illness. Follow ACP on X (formerly Twitter), Instagram, and Facebook.
American Osteopathic Association
The American Osteopathic Association (AOA) represents more than 186,000 osteopathic physicians (DOs) and osteopathic medical students; promotes public health; encourages scientific research; and serves as the primary certifying body for DOs. To learn more about DOs and the osteopathic philosophy of medicine, visit www.osteopathic.org.
American Psychiatric Association
The American Psychiatric Association, founded in 1844, is the oldest medical association in the country. The APA is also the largest psychiatric association in the world with more than 38,000 physician members specializing in the diagnosis, treatment, prevention and research of mental illnesses. APA’s vision is to ensure access to quality psychiatric diagnosis and treatment. For more information, please visit www.psychiatry.org.
https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/ne...oups-unequivocally-support-covid-19-vaccines/
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Report spotlights 52 US doctors who posted potentially harmful COVID misinformation online
Vaccine untruths, conspiracy theories
A mixed-methods study published yesterday in JAMA Network Open finds that 52 physicians practicing in 28 different specialties across the United States propagated COVID-19 misinformation on vaccines, masks, and conspiracy theories on social media and other online platforms from January 2021 to December 2022.
Researchers at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst used Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidelines on COVID-19 prevention and treatment to define misinformation. They also performed structured searches of high-use social media platforms (Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Parler, and YouTube) and news outlets (the New York Times and National Public Radio) to identify physician-communicated misinformation.
Twitter was the most common platform, where 71.2% of the doctors spread misinformation and had a median of 67,400 followers.
All 52 physicians who spread misleading COVID-19 information were or had been licensed to practice medicine in the United States except for two, who were researchers, and nearly a third were affiliated with groups with a history of spreading medical misinformation, such as America's Frontline Doctors. The most common specialty was primary care, at 36%.
Of the 52 physicians, 80.8% posted false vaccine information, 76.9% passed on more than one type of misinformation in more than one category, 38.5% posted falsities on at least five platforms, and 76.9% appeared on five or more third-party online platforms such as news outlets. Twitter was the most common platform, where 71.2% of the doctors spread misinformation and had a median of 67,400 followers.
Major themes were disputing COVID-19 vaccine safety and effectiveness, promoting non–evidence-based medical treatments or those lacking Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval for this indication (eg, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine), disputing mask effectiveness, and other unproven claims on topics such as the origin of SARS-CoV-2, government coverups, drug company profit motivations, and other conspiracy theories. Many posts were based on patient anecdotes and data from low-quality medical journals.
Promoting fear and distrust of the vaccine and reliance on "natural" immunity were frequent subthemes. Examples of the unfounded claims were that the vaccine causes infertility, permanently damages the immune system, and increases the risk of chronic disease for children and overstated the risk of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle).
"A common approach included circulating counts of positive case rates by vaccination status, claiming that most positive cases were among vaccinated individuals," the researchers wrote. "This claim is technically true but misleading, as many more people are vaccinated, and the proportion of unvaccinated people who are infected is much higher."
Falsehoods may have contributed to a third of US deaths
The authors predicted that the elimination of safeguards against misinformation on Twitter (now X) and the absence of federal laws regulating medical misinformation on social media will lead to the persistence—or even an increase in—the spread of non–evidence-based information.
The authors said that while medical misinformation was spread long before the COVID-19 pandemic, the internet boosts the reach and speed of dissemination, potentially exacerbating the consequences.
They noted that about a third of the more than 1.1 million reported COVID-19 deaths in the United States as of January 18, 2023, were considered preventable if public health recommendations such as vaccination and physical distancing had been followed.
"COVID-19 misinformation has been spread by many people on social medial platforms, but misinformation spread by physicians may be particularly pernicious," the authors wrote. "This study's findings suggest a need for rigorous evaluation of harm that may be caused by physicians, who hold a uniquely trusted position in society, propagating misinformation; ethical and legal guidelines for propagation of misinformation are needed."
'Do your own research' rooted in conspiracy theories
A study conducted by two University of Wisconsin (UW) and University of Michigan (UM) researchers suggests that the promotion of "doing your own research" (DYOR) rather than relying on evidence-based COVID-19 information may reflect anti-expert attitudes instead of beliefs about the importance of critically evaluating data and sources.
The research was published in the Harvard Kennedy School's Misinformation Review.
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19...tentially-harmful-covid-misinformation-online
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Seriously, this thread can go on forever...anti-vaxxers post their opinions against vaccines and pro-vaxxers post their opinions supporting vaccines.
It makes no difference. People will do their research and then make their own decisions. It is no different than deciding who will be your family physician, which city to live in, which foods to eat, and who to vote for in an election.
The hilarious aspect, idiots in this thread who are against pharmaceutical companies...support the same pharmaceutical companies that make a drug that improves the life of a friend, improves the life of a loved one, or improves their own life.
#hypocrisy
wrbtrader
