Just start looking for a line break and a retracement.
Quote from llIHeroic:
Where in this chart has 3192 offered any sort of resistance [?]
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I am also interested in people's thoughts about niko's question. I feel like I am making a stab in the dark, but perhaps it's relevance comes from the fact that it accurately represents both of the opposing forces acting upon price in the present time of the chart.
Failure to breach 3192 to the downside is an indication of selling pressure's inability to continue the [relatively] short-term momentum they've gained on the demand over the past eighteen hours.
Likewise, falling through the short-term support at 3192 signals the continued degradation of the demand that we've been noting as we fan our demand lines multiple times. Of course, falling through 3192 doesn't seem like it would be the complete death of the demand that's shown its force over the past two days, but it would be an indication that the supply we can see starting to form is a serious movement rather than a small hesitation in demand.
Higher low around 3193 clearly showing demand is stronger than supply. But price is still inside 3192 to 3200, so we await developments. We need to watch closely the relative strength between demand and supply when market is approaching 3198 again; or it may march down to break down 3192 to have a lower low.Quote from dbphoenix:
Given the two scenarios you've outlined, and leaving "support" aside, how would you evaluate the following chart which presents the price activity a few minutes before the opening bell (the 92 line from the previous chart has been brought forward)?
Quote from dbphoenix:
Given the two scenarios you've outlined, and leaving "support" aside, how would you evaluate the following chart which presents the price activity a few minutes before the opening bell (the 92 line from the previous chart has been brought forward)?
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Quote from llIHeroic:
Okay, I will try my best. Well, in the past I would make the mistake of assigning way too much importance to the more recent movement of price that I can see, which in this case could look like a down-move with a RET at about 50% which is starting to lose steam.
Having more time to mull over the situation, it would clearly be a mistake to think this way. Having established the context we've just been discussing, I think the most important factor here is the small lift off of the 3192 line. There weren't any sellers even interested in making exchanges at what would be a reasonable value if they felt that the range accurately represented current value, and especially if there was confidence in a continued down-move by sellers.
With this in mind, it allows us to see the pretty impressive demand lines that can be drawn on the two up-moves pictured. The first surge didn't even continue along in a linear fashion; it sharpened immediately after the retracement, and there wasn't even a sound rejection of the peak of the movement.. price hovered there for several minutes before coming back down.
And again, instead of seeing the second movement as a faltering RET, we can see that price is beginning to lift off the initial demand line of the movement into a steeper incline once just like last time. Also, it has just inched above the top of the swing high prior to the pictured peak as well. The signals are starting to paint a fairly convincing picture...
Quote from dbphoenix:
Commendable, though your first DL isn't tight enough as price leaves it in just a few bars. But at least you're evaluating it in terms of demand and supply rather than patterns and lines.
All of this precedes the first question I asked on Friday at 0928 which had to do with the higher low and you've addressed that.
So now what? The market opens in two minutes. What are you going to do?
Quote from dbphoenix:
Given the two scenarios you've outlined, and leaving "support" aside, how would you evaluate the following chart which presents the price activity a few minutes before the opening bell (the 92 line from the previous chart has been brought forward)?
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Quote from llIHeroic:
Okay, I will try my best. Well, in the past I would make the mistake of assigning way too much importance to the more recent movement of price that I can see, which in this case could look like a down-move with a RET at about 50% which is starting to lose steam.
Having more time to mull over the situation, it would clearly be a mistake to think this way. Having established the context we've just been discussing, I think the most important factor here is the small lift off of the 3192 line. There weren't any sellers even interested in making exchanges at what would be a reasonable value if they felt that the range accurately represented current value, and especially if there was confidence in a continued down-move by sellers.
With this in mind, it allows us to see the pretty impressive demand lines that can be drawn on the two up-moves pictured. The first surge didn't even continue along in a linear fashion; it sharpened immediately after the retracement, and there wasn't even a sound rejection of the peak of the movement.. price hovered there for several minutes before coming back down.
And again, instead of seeing the second movement as a faltering RET, we can see that price is beginning to lift off the initial demand line of the movement into a steeper incline once just like last time. Also, it has just inched above the top of the swing high prior to the pictured peak as well. The signals are starting to paint a fairly convincing picture...