Must have been those damn jet ski's they were using then.
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Some stuff in the news......hot off the press
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Must have been those damn jet ski's they were using then.
I'm sorry, I was wrong. Seas were only about 75 ft higher and the temps were about 7 degrees F higher. But the rate of CO2 increase back then was only about 5% of what it is now because it was merely out-gassing from a warming planet due to orbital changes.
That's the thing. The difference is that the apes didn't have all that gas, coal and oil to burn. Plus they had no matches to light it or engines to burn it in even if they did. You do understand that right? The current CO2 rise is mostly from us burning coal gas and oil.
You see, it was all an insider plot by the dinosaurs to have the last laugh.
That's the thing. The difference is that the apes didn't have all that gas, coal and oil to burn. Plus they had no matches to light it or engines to burn it in even if they did. You do understand that right? The current CO2 rise is mostly from us burning coal gas and oil.
You see, it was all an insider plot by the dinosaurs to have the last laugh.
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That was a good trade. Congrats. Chart was consolidating at a pretty good low support level.
I'm looking at DBA (agricultural). My feeling is that extreme weather will continue to impact it at ever increasing rates. DJP seems to be highly correlated to it. What do you think about DBA ?
My thought is that agriculture will be more related to weather and seeing as how weather is getting worse the potential is better there. But if one is betting more on economic recovery perhaps DJP is better.
How about CORN? Too late? It's at a two year high but at the same level it was last Sept. I'm tempted to gamble a little on it. My rational is that things are worse for the corn crop this year than it was last year no?
For ag stuff you'd be way better off asking RCG since he sees it firsthand. I'm just doing logical stuff off the data I see.
But off the top of my head, just to maybe get a discussion on this started, I figure most of the news is already in corn, but probably hasn't really made its way into beef and pork yet. There's only a few places that grow corn capable of giving you grade A beef, after all, and those places are the places that are getting hit hard by this.
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The current CO2 rise is mostly from us burning coal gas and oil.
That's cool how you can take your assumptions and elevate them to fact like that... no really...
you see, there is data, that which is measured and observed, and there is information, the interpretation of data by someone else.. knowing the difference is very, very important because bad people will lie to you and try to get you to be stupid and do things for them.
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That's cool how you can take your assumptions and elevate them to fact like that... no really...
you see, there is data, that which is measured and observed, and there is information, the interpretation of data by someone else.. knowing the difference is very, very important because bad people will lie to you and try to get you to be stupid and do things for them.
No really, it's from the burning of fossil fuels. It's pretty simple math. We know how much stuff we're burning. And then there is isotope analysis and stuff that also confirms it, but I don't want to confuse you.
Oh but you think all these scientists are working for Al Gore.
Again, I ask, is eight your IQ? You're a righty aren't you?
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For ag stuff you'd be way better off asking RCG since he sees it firsthand. I'm just doing logical stuff off the data I see.
But off the top of my head, just to maybe get a discussion on this started, I figure most of the news is already in corn, but probably hasn't really made its way into beef and pork yet. There's only a few places that grow corn capable of giving you grade A beef, after all, and those places are the places that are getting hit hard by this.
My guess is that CORN is going to blast past last year's high. I bought a small amount today.
Good idea about the beef.
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For ag stuff you'd be way better off asking RCG since he sees it firsthand. I'm just doing logical stuff off the data I see.
But off the top of my head, just to maybe get a discussion on this started, I figure most of the news is already in corn, but probably hasn't really made its way into beef and pork yet. There's only a few places that grow corn capable of giving you grade A beef, after all, and those places are the places that are getting hit hard by this.
Without looking any charts, we began to see trouble right after planting. Early May. I would think the price of corn directly has been baked into the contract. Better would be to look at all the things that corn does, and find if that has been baked in or not.
Edit: No April showers, but maybe May. Then no May flowers.
Most of those cute saying are actually agricultural timing mechanisms.
Back in the day there was a saying, knee high by the fourth of july. With modern tech that is now chest/neck high. Corn did not make that here. Now everyone knows we are in deep trouble.
A scientist with a balanced perspective.
The godfather of global warming lowers the boom on climate change hysteria
Lovelock still believes anthropogenic global warming is occurring and that mankind must lower its greenhouse gas emissions, but says itâs now clear the doomsday predictions, including his own (and Al Goreâs) were incorrect.
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/06/22/green-drivel
The godfather of global warming lowers the boom on climate change hysteria
Lovelock still believes anthropogenic global warming is occurring and that mankind must lower its greenhouse gas emissions, but says itâs now clear the doomsday predictions, including his own (and Al Goreâs) were incorrect.
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/06/22/green-drivel
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A scientist with a balanced perspective.
The godfather of global warming lowers the boom on climate change hysteria
Lovelock still believes anthropogenic global warming is occurring and that mankind must lower its greenhouse gas emissions, but says itâs now clear the doomsday predictions, including his own (and Al Goreâs) were incorrect.
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/06/22/green-drivel
Lovelock is anything but balanced and he's not a climatologist and he's only one guy, one flaky very old dude.
He has been quoted in The Guardian that 80% of humans will perish by 2100 AD from global warming.