some real trading results

what's rong with mf

No link to actual REAL MONEY trading account, only "trade alerts" by the "mavens". Trading success is more than just sending alerts.

Marketfy is certainly better than no verification of alert track record at all, when comparing with alert services who don't provide any track record verification at all. Anyway, they mention human behavior (manual inputing of trades) as a potential source of error, which is a bit disturbing. It's not the ultimate proof whether someone is a successful trader.
 
If that performance is real, then the guy is actually among the happy few best funds managers.

It's always fun to look at some real trading results.

Here are some results of a guy who sells a premium trading service.

http://jonboorman.com/premium/

SUMMARY AS OF 7/1/16

OPEN:- Total 9: 8 winners, 1 loser.Average win +16.0%, average loss -1.5%.

CLOSED:- Total 255: 109 winners, 146 losers. Average win +17.0%, average loss -6.8%.

TOTAL SINCE INCEPTION (1/27/13):-

Total 264: 117 winners, 147 losers (44% win). Average win +16.9%, average loss -6.8%.

So assuming he equal weighted each position, and the winners took no more time than the losers (unlikely), the return is 41%, though he won't give the numbers:

117*.17 - 147*.07 = 41%

That's a 41% return since 1/27/13, the SPY is up around 50% in that time (from about 140-210). So he's not beating the index. So that's your trading guru for you.

@guruleaks1 on twitter has some great dirt on what s/he calls the Furus.
 
Extensive social media presence with 26.6k tweets and 18k followers on Twitter (as of just now) looks like a "guru" to me.

And the fact that he presents his performance figures in an opaque way rings alarm bells. Why isn't he on a platform like fundseeder, where the account data is downloaded directly from the brokerage?

Marketfy is a joke.

Would you guess how many of the followers are currently buying his signals service?

1% of 18,000 followers paying, say, $100 per month can be good money, i.e. 180x$100/month=$18,000/month!

Jon Boorman, CMT

Portfolio Manager at Broadsword Capital, LLC

Charlotte, North Carolina
Investment Management

Current

Broadsword Capital, LLC, Alpha Capture, LLC

Previous

M. Jennings Partners, LLC, Lehman Brothers, Scudder Investments

Websites

Broadsword Capital, LLC
Alpha Capture, LLC

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonboorman

Summary

Portfolio Manager at Broadsword Capital, LLC, a Registered Investment Adviser in Charlotte, NC. I manage a long-only trend-following strategy on US stocks for individual investors via separately managed accounts.

I have over 25 years experience in global markets, having previously held roles as a sales trader to hedge funds and institutions, research analyst, prop trader, and buy-side head of desk.

In addition to my role as a money manager, I write the Alpha Capture blog at jonboorman.com, where I employ trend following and momentum strategies to generate actionable trade ideas and market commentary available via subscription on the Marketfy platform.

You can follow me on Twitter and StockTwits @JBoorman.
Experience

Broadsword Capital, LLC
President & CEO
Broadsword Capital, LLC
May 2014 – Present (2 years 3 months)

I manage a long-only trend-following strategy on US stocks with no use of margin or leverage via separately managed accounts on the Interactive Brokers platform.

This enables clients to achieve long-term absolute returns by participating in market uptrends and avoiding the worst of any downturn through a strict rules-based process with disciplined position sizing and risk management.

Clients enjoy complete transparency and access to their funds, and take comfort in the knowledge Interactive Brokers has custody of their assets at all times.
CEO
Alpha Capture, LLC
January 2013 – Present (3 years 7 months)

Alpha Capture, LLC is a publishing company providing actionable trade ideas and market commentary on the Alpha Capture investment blog at jonboorman.com, and via subscription services on the separately hosted platform at marketfy.com.

Partner
M. Jennings Partners, LLC
December 2008 – December 2012 (4 years 1 month)

Market Technician, Sales Trader

Sales trader in US equities to hedge funds and institutions with emphasis on idea generation utilizing proprietary trading systems. Subsequently qualified as Research Analyst producing technical research to institutional client base.

Developed innovative technical research product in form of short-term alpha capture ideas and traditional long-term investment portfolio recommendations, with focus on transparency and accountability through unequivocal ratings and definitions, and documented track record of performance.

Established commission paying relationships with several prominent hedge funds through engagement in their proprietary alpha capture platforms.

Successfully completed MTA's Chartered Market Technician program, and Series 86/87 to qualify as Research Analyst.
Lehman Brothers
Vice President
Lehman Brothers
August 1999 – September 2004 (5 years 2 months)London, United Kingdom

Proprietary Trader, Sales Trader.

Joined Lehman Bros as Vice President in 1999, sales trading Pan-European equities to predominately US client base covering major hedge funds and institutions.

Instrumental in revival of firm's relationship with prominent UK hedge fund through generation of successful trading ideas. At time of leaving was ranked no.1 of all sales traders in client's proprietary alpha capture program.

Invited to join proprietary trading desk with broad mandate as generalist, trading Pan-European equities and US/European futures markets based on blend of technicals and fundamentals.
Associate Director
Scudder Investments
June 1995 – July 1999 (4 years 2 months)London, United Kingdom

Head of desk trading global equities and forex.

Appointed originally by Kemper Investments to establish and manage International Trading Desk, transferring trading from Chicago to London.

Responsible for global trading from the London office mostly in Pan-European equities whilst also transacting and administering all FX deals and trade support functions. (Kemper was later acquired by Zurich Insurance, and subsequently merged with Scudder).
Schroders
Equity Trader
Schroders
July 1987 – June 1995 (8 years)London, United Kingdom

Trader in Japanese and Far-East Asian equities.

After initial period in Operations, promoted to role within Fund Management arm, later becoming responsible for Japanese and Far-East Asian trading in centralized dealing room of twelve traders.

Certifications

Chartered Market Technician
Market Technicians Association, License 1430
December 2011 – Present
Series 7, 63, 65, 86/87
FINRA
 
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Not sure why some traders, including hedge fund managers, think they can predict the markets. Nobody can predict the news and other global and corporate events.

imo, almost every trader, including short selling options or arb trading, predicts market directions when physically placing a trade, either long, short or neutral.

Almost every trader carried out some sorts of back-testing, either numerical or visual or else (e.g. mathematical modelling), before actually starting trading. That would also imply predicting something based on back-testing results.

Seldom any active trader starts trading without any back-testing at all, if he is able to do back-testing.

Just 2 cents!
 
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For some, a 41% return with very minimal risk exposure to the market is superior to a 50% return requiring 100% of my capital invested in the market 100% of the time. I'd rather have a sum of multiple strategies that all underperform the market, individually, but in aggregate and on a risk-adjusted basis give me better risk/reward returns. To make more money I just add more strategies with positive expectancy.
 
The 41% assumes that the capital was deployed 100% of the time and is a a best case performance. His real performance is probably less than 41%.
 
Hey guys, I think I can help out with some answers to these questions.

First some background, although you posted my Linkedin profile so you should know it ;-)

I started trading in the mid 80's as a kid in the UK. I started work in the City (London) in '87 at Schroders. Initially was in the back office, worked my way up, assistant to fund manager, then the trading desk. Later moved to what was then Kemper later Scudder, as head of trading desk, trading global equities and fx. Left there in '99 to go to the sell side at Lehman, sales trading pan-european equities to hedge funds and institutions, and later became a prop trader there. Finished there in 2004, and moved to the US a year later. Took a year or two out, reading, studying, developing trading systems, with the intention of eventually managing money. Wasn't ready and no opportunities as the market broke, so took a job with a friend's brokerage from late 2008-2012 whilst still working on stuff in the background, and in 2013 decided to finally quit and go out on my own.

Figured I would just start with a blog, and start sharing ideas and telling my story. Sharing what I thought, what I've learned in markets all my life, what's worked for me, and tried to demonstrate in real time with real trades how it can work. Had a lot of success at first. 2013 was obviously a great year for a momentum strategy on stocks. Beyond that, not so much.

I was fortunate enough that during 2013 some people approached me and asked if I ever ran money could they invest me. So late 2014 I decided to form two separate companies. An RIA to manage client money, and a publishing company to run the blog/subscription service. I have to keep the two very separate because as an RIA I'm registered and regulated.

To answer some specifics @billyjoerob @karoshiman @OddTrader

I don't equal-weight, I equal-risk. I wanted to show on the blog the performance in R-multiples to better demonstrate that, but figured many people might not understand it. I use position sizing strategies as made popular by Van Tharp. I emphasize in my work the importance of position sizing. The fact that two traders could have the exact same winning system, with the same trades, and same trade outcomes, but could have entirely different trading results because of how they might size each position differently. It's for that reason I never showed the percentage return of an overall portfolio on my blog because if I did people would then think they could get the same if they traded the same stocks, entries, and exits. They won't. It will depend on their position size. I figured it would be better to just show what each and every trade did, and let them work out what could be achieved depending on their risk tolerance. Everyone's is different. At the time I also had to be careful talking about performance as I was becoming registered. To be honest, I personally think I showed more on that page than I ever saw any other traders out there showing. No one can accuse me of only showing winning trades. I lose a lot of the time, and I talk about it.

Shortly after setting up my RIA I then set up a subscriber service on Marketfy in late 2014. I hadn't had any subscribers prior to that. My blog was just that, a blog. I did everything for free for 18 months. I was just sharing what I thought was good helpful content, and I got a lot of people that seemed to appreciate it. They started following me, and invited me to do podcasts etc. I think people liked that I was transparent with the results, accessible, honest, and not anonymous. 2013 to mid-2014 was great, but my timing in setting up those business late 2014 couldn't have been worse. As you know, we had an 18-month rangebound market, and for an intermediate-term momentum guy that was a killer. Performance has sucked. And you'll be pleased to know, since the service was hosted on Marketfy it has an actual portfolio, so it also showed a portfolio return not just the individual trades.

In 2015 it was in line with the market, and YTD it's down 8% which is horrible. I haven't made money in the last two years, but I haven't lost a lot either. We probably have very different timeframes and perspectives. Fortunately my clients do too. You should also know I run a highly-concentrated portfolio, typically 12-15 names, but occasionally it can be as few as 8-10, so it has a very different return profile to the S&P. I have losing trades, losing months, losing years, but so do winning systems, and long-term successful traders and investors.

Re sub numbers, I never had anywhere near that number, I got off to a good start when the business started and it tailed off after that with the performance as you might expect. I've heard some blogger/RIA types out there have services with 100-150 ppl, but it's a high turnover business and it's more suited to short-term trading.

And in case you think I'm being opaque, you should know my blog is currently down because I'm having it redeveloped and moving the sub service from Marketfy to host it myself in the coming weeks.

With regards to Fundseeder, I looked into it as it could help with the RIA biz but they couldn't answer my questions about whether the performance would be GIPS-compliant, which suggests the answer is no, so I wasn't interested.

Re being a 'guru', I can assure you I'm NOT. All I try to do is share good content with people and help them not make the mistakes I made throughout the years at great cost. I've discovered everything I know the hard way and I try to save others time, and they seem to appreciate it. I've never claimed to have all the answers, and certainly never claimed to be a guru or promise untold riches. In fact I often say I'm always learning. Because truthfully we all are. And besides, what guru do you know who shows trades and has losing years? I find it amusing that you guys seem to think because someone has a lot of followers it makes them a guru. What should I do? Tell everyone to stop following me so I don't get a bad reputation?

I hope that answers some of your questions. Best to your trading.
 
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