software engineer path

Quote from nickhat:

Hi all,

I'm currently a sellside broker working on the institutional side. With the obvious shift toward technology, I'm interested in pursuing a career in software engineering, specifically working on and developing trading platforms at large institutions (i-banks, hedge funds etc). I have no prior programming experience. I've looked into the MSE online program at Brandeis which seems like a good way to start. I'd appreciate any and all advice. Thanks
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In my opinion you might be better off attending a local university in person, not online, to get the full experience.

Also if the course does not require as prerequisite an undergraduate engineering or science degree, it may be taught at a low level and get little respect from major employers. You might be able to get some sort of job with it though and gradually build up experience *if* you have the aptitude and lots of drive.
 
Quote from DeeDeeTwo:

Obviously no one here has attended a good university...
As opposed to "reading articles" and "talking to people".

That's because a good university FORCES you learn hard things...
And do things in a CERTAIN way, often counterintuitive...
And APPLY knowledge in a creative manner...
Using constant time PRESSURE and FEAR of failure...
Plus weeds out slackers by only allowing 50% to progress to the next year.

Every engineering program of note is a brutal, competitive, near-sadistic grind...
Which elevates your thinking and problem solving skills to another level.

This place is full of people who still think at the high school level...
They are very easy to spot... and are wasting their time "trading".
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As someone who attended "a good university", then "a good grad school", a couple of times..

I think it mostly comes down to aptitude determining success within the automated-trading-industrial-complex. For example, a few of the better coders I know have undergraduate business degrees, somewhat surprisingly.

Find a coder who's really written real time asynchronous systems, to the point of actually preferring to poll when possible. That's a pretty good test.

As for India, and other (currently) low cost regions - there can be good guys over there, but, the better ones usually end up physically here.
 
We are having a hard time finding good programmers (especially architects and lead programmers) in Boston who ideally know about trading. I interviewed for 8 months before placing someone. Resumes welcome.
 
Quote from Steven.Davis:

We are having a hard time finding good programmers (especially architects and lead programmers) in Boston who ideally know about trading. I interviewed for 8 months before placing someone. Resumes welcome.
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Sometimes you have to pay the spread, to lock in the talent.
 
one of the hint to spot a real good programmer:


1) anti social
2) can't dress
3) beloved of video games (xbox, playstation, wii)
4) cartoon freak.
5) enjoy eating fast foods (pizza)
6) become shy when nice looking women around. (WOMEN whooo hooo)
7) most enjoy rock music



P.S

a good programmer who is an anti social have time to develop a program vs a programmer who is social able have time or will make time with women rather than working
 
Quote from emg:

one of the hint to spot a real good programmer:


1) anti social
2) can't dress
3) beloved of video games (xbox, playstation, wii)
4) cartoon freak.
5) enjoy eating fast foods (pizza)
6) become shy when nice looking women around. (WOMEN whooo hooo)
7) most enjoy rock music



P.S

a good programmer who is an anti social have time to develop a program vs a programmer who is social able have time or will make time with women rather than working
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They don't survive in a trading floor.

Maybe at apple building i-somethings & having farting contests.
 
I know someone who couldn't find a job anywhere. Well not many employers like their staff to roll up at midday, unwashed etc.

He thought he had found his niche in life as a sperm donor. They haven't found the " lazy " gene yet !

:(
 
Quote from emg:

one of the hint to spot a real good programmer:


1) anti social
2) can't dress
3) beloved of video games (xbox, playstation, wii)
4) cartoon freak.
5) enjoy eating fast foods (pizza)
6) become shy when nice looking women around. (WOMEN whooo hooo)
7) most enjoy rock music



P.S

a good programmer who is an anti social have time to develop a program vs a programmer who is social able have time or will make time with women rather than working
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8) favorite food. lean pockets


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