Socialism nearly killed the Pilgrims...but it produces great places to live

[Baron]

Quote from DT-waw:

all these cities are BOOOOORING!
extremely boring.
let's add Oslo, Stavanger and german Koln

My list would be...

1. Barcelona/Monte Carlo
2. Rome
3. Miami
4. L.A.
5. NY
6. Tokyo
7. Singapore
8. Sydney
9. London/Paris
10. Sao Paulo

If you define quality of life as "bangin' night clubs", then yes, that's a good list

 

[trefoil]

What, exactly, am I doing? I lived in NY back in the day, and while I don't now, I do know the diff between what it was like back then and what it is like now. Calling it a sh*thole means you actually haven't been back in ages.
8 million people live there, and unlike most big old cities, that population is steady, not declining - maybe some since '08, not sure about that, but certainly not the steady loss of a place like Detroit.
I have two nieces living there. Friends and colleagues who live there. None of them are cowering in fear or anything else.
I don't know what goes on over there in Chicago. I do know New York.

 

[Grandluxe]

Quote from Covertibility:

The pilgrim thing is from Boss Limbaugh this past week.

Survey says the best place to live is...


Top 10 in Mercer Quality of Living survey

1 Vienna Austria

2 Zurich Switzerland

3 Auckland New Zealand

4 Munich Germany

5 Duesseldorf Germany

5 Vancouver Canada

7 Frankfurt Germany

8 Geneva Switzerland

9 Bern Switzerland

9 Copenhagen Denmark

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They don't have to worry about crime because there are very few conservatives about to shoot up churches/IHOP's/schoolyards/etc.. or blow up federal buildings. And for some reason, muslims don't hate the freedom Europeans enjoy.

They are mostly part of the Germanosphere.

None of these are global alpha cities though.

A global city (also called world city or sometimes alpha city or world center) is a city that is deemed to be an important node in the global economic system.

Alpha++ London, New York City

Alpha+ Chicago, Dubai, Hong Kong, Paris, Shanghai, Singapore, Sydney and Tokyo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_city

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from trefoil:

What, exactly, am I doing? I lived in NY back in the day, and while I don't now, I do know the diff between what it was like back then and what it is like now. Calling it a sh*thole means you actually haven't been back in ages.
8 million people live there, and unlike most big old cities, that population is steady, not declining - maybe some since '08, not sure about that, but certainly not the steady loss of a place like Detroit.
I have two nieces living there. Friends and colleagues who live there. None of them are cowering in fear or anything else.
I don't know what goes on over there in Chicago. I do know New York.

Just for the record, both NY and Chicago have declining populations.

 

[shortie]

I briefly visited NYC recently. I have not see the really bad neighborhoods like South Bronx.

I would say Jamaica, NY ~= Newark, NJ (drove through it very quickly recently).

 

[trefoil]

Quote from Maverick74:

Just for the record, both NY and Chicago have declining populations.

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/36/36061.html

Try actually checking before you insert your foot in your mouth.

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from trefoil:

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/36/36061.html

Try actually checking before you insert your foot in your mouth.

That's over the last decade shithead. NY took a hit after the financial crisis after many people lost their jobs in the banking sector. Chicago has less people now then they did during the depression.

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from trefoil:

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/36/36061.html

Try actually checking before you insert your foot in your mouth.

Here is some "checking" for you.

http://www.renthop.com/news/2010/04/2010-census-and-a-study-of-the-past/

Thanks for coming out.

 

[trefoil]

Quote from Maverick74:

That's over the last decade shithead. NY took a hit after the financial crisis after many people lost their jobs in the banking sector. Chicago has less people now then they did during the depression.

And so? I said it might have after '08; actually, I'd be surprised if it hadn't. Population obviously rises and falls with the economic cycle.
But as far as a secular trend down - no. It ain't Detroit.
As for Chicago and its pop vs the Depression, well, maybe it does, I don't know. I said I don't know Chicago. I do know New York. You guys from Chicago love to extrapolate from your experience out to the rest of the big old cities. Try looking at the evidence and actually talking to people rather than just throwing crap out and just asserting it's true.

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from trefoil:

And so? I said it might have after '08; actually, I'd be surprised if it hadn't. Population obviously rises and falls with the economic cycle.
But as far as a secular trend down - no. It ain't Detroit.
As for Chicago and its pop vs the Depression, well, maybe it does, I don't know. I said I don't know Chicago. I do know New York. You guys from Chicago love to extrapolate from your experience out to the rest of the big old cities. Try looking at the evidence and actually talking to people rather than just throwing crap out and just asserting it's true.

You have me confused with a different poster. I never said any city was going to crap. I only responded to a site in which you linked crime rates and pointed out the demographics of those cities. I never once mentioned Detroit or NY for that matter. Please get your thoughts together before you throw shit at me.