Athesim comes before socialism.
Socialism leads to Atheism?
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I am reading Brothers Karamazov. There is a line from it that I don't follow, and maybe one of you can explain it to me. This passage:
"... the question of the Tower of Babel built precisely without God...)"
I don't understand how Dostoevsky reaches the conclusion that "socialism is .. but first of all the question of atheism" ??? Does that mean that the statements negation, that Capitalism would then lead to Theism??!!
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Well having studied tower of babel;
Dietrich Bonhoffer, this year [spelling?]
Dietrich said ''socialism is an attempt to make history without God''.Nazi imprisioned /killed him, but his warning still lives on.
Black preacher got it right;
''socialism is doctrine of devils''
[2]Not automatic;
but Solomon said ''honor the LORD with your wealth/ capital''. Never see it in the word of God, honor the Lord with your socialism
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Great points, Jem/Jim;
Israel & America have some amazing convergences
Solomon said laziness results in slave [forced labor]Proverbs.
Take it up with God, free T if you dont like it. Thanks
Capitalisms requires faith, belief that one can better one's circumstances.
Socialism is faithless. Ghettos are socialistic in that no one person can have more than another without risk of victimization. While the ghettos are full of church, it is often viewed as little more than a hustle. The more socialist an environment is, the more nihilistic and faithless they become.
You just pissed off Free Thinker. Now he is going to have tell his wife to shut up so he can respond to you on internet message board. Bad move RCG, bad move.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity
if an atheist and and a deist agree to manually count to infinity will they reach the same conclusion?
if an atheist and and a deist agree to manually count to infinity will they reach the same conclusion?
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You just pissed off Free Thinker. Now he is going to have tell his wife to shut up so he can respond to you on internet message board. Bad move RCG, bad move.
I respect FT, but he has taken the failures of religion and called them the failures of God.
Socialist do not believe things can get better, they have no faith. America is what she is because of her faith, this nation is a toddler in nation years, but look at what we have accomplished.
All because....We the People, In order to form a more perfect Union.....
What utter bunkum.
Judaism's religious text probably contains even more law governing the ownership and management of slaves and condoning barbaric practices than the Old Testament based on it.
It took thousands of years for societies to force out the religious theocracy and the standards set down in the Torah and Bible. They are no basis for democratic rule of law.
Only a degree of duplicity as that in religion can describe its cruel and primitive belief system into something it never was.
What's weird is the way in which many people appear content to be spoon fed such crap, to puke it back up, as seen in the arrant hypocrisy of leaders too, who still have the impertinence to credit religion as the source for moral standards.
What is strange is how atheists ignore history...
here a quote I found on the internet that restates what I have been saying to you Stu for years... although I make a stronger conclusion... The protestant reformation... contributed heavily to the founding of the US and the idea of liberty embodied by the US founders in the U.S. Constitution.
http://personal-pages.lvc.edu/robbins/ReformationandModernity.htm
How did the Reformation contribute to the Shaping of the Modern World?
Like the Renaissance, the Reformation drew its inspiration from the ancient world. Renaissance humanists and artists sought to imitate and revive classical art and literary forms; Reformation thinkers aspired to restore the spiritual purity of early Christianity, before the growth of a powerful clergy and a dogmatic theology. They used the Gospels in order to undermine the authority of the Church. Yet, in several important ways, the Reformation also contributed to the shaping of modernity:
1. By dividing Christendom into Catholic and Protestant, the Reformation destroyed the religious unity of Europe, the distinguishing feature of the Middle Ages, and weakened the Church, the chief institution of medieval society.
2. By strengthening monarchs at the expense of church bodies, the Reformation furthered the growth of the modern secular and centralized state.
3. While absolute monarchy was the immediate beneficiary of the Reformation, indirectly Protestantism contributed to the growth of political liberty â another feature of the modern West. Protestantism accomplished this by providing religious justification for revolution against tyrannical rule.
4. The Reformation advanced the idea of equality. For instance, M. Luther held that there was no spiritual distinction between the laity and clergy. There was a spiritual equality of all believers: all were equally Christian; all were equally priests (the priesthood of believers)
5. The Reformation contributed to the creation of an individualistic ethic. Protestants insisted on the individualâs rights and responsibilities to interpret Scripture according to the dictates of his or her conscience. Piety, therefore, was not determined by the Church, but by the autonomous individual, whose conscience, illuminated by God, was the source of judgment and authority.
6. The Reformationâs stress on individual conscience may have contributed to the development of the capitalist spirit, which underlies modern economic life.
here a quote I found on the internet that restates what I have been saying to you Stu for years... although I make a stronger conclusion... The protestant reformation... contributed heavily to the founding of the US and the idea of liberty embodied by the US founders in the U.S. Constitution.
http://personal-pages.lvc.edu/robbins/ReformationandModernity.htm
How did the Reformation contribute to the Shaping of the Modern World?
Like the Renaissance, the Reformation drew its inspiration from the ancient world. Renaissance humanists and artists sought to imitate and revive classical art and literary forms; Reformation thinkers aspired to restore the spiritual purity of early Christianity, before the growth of a powerful clergy and a dogmatic theology. They used the Gospels in order to undermine the authority of the Church. Yet, in several important ways, the Reformation also contributed to the shaping of modernity:
1. By dividing Christendom into Catholic and Protestant, the Reformation destroyed the religious unity of Europe, the distinguishing feature of the Middle Ages, and weakened the Church, the chief institution of medieval society.
2. By strengthening monarchs at the expense of church bodies, the Reformation furthered the growth of the modern secular and centralized state.
3. While absolute monarchy was the immediate beneficiary of the Reformation, indirectly Protestantism contributed to the growth of political liberty â another feature of the modern West. Protestantism accomplished this by providing religious justification for revolution against tyrannical rule.
4. The Reformation advanced the idea of equality. For instance, M. Luther held that there was no spiritual distinction between the laity and clergy. There was a spiritual equality of all believers: all were equally Christian; all were equally priests (the priesthood of believers)
5. The Reformation contributed to the creation of an individualistic ethic. Protestants insisted on the individualâs rights and responsibilities to interpret Scripture according to the dictates of his or her conscience. Piety, therefore, was not determined by the Church, but by the autonomous individual, whose conscience, illuminated by God, was the source of judgment and authority.
6. The Reformationâs stress on individual conscience may have contributed to the development of the capitalist spirit, which underlies modern economic life.